1 00:00:03,990 --> 00:00:01,750 this program is brought to you by the 2 00:00:07,549 --> 00:00:04,000 genesis communications network a world 3 00:00:16,990 --> 00:00:07,559 leader in talk radio since 1998. visit 4 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:28,970 [Music] 5 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:34,310 you're in the paracast 6 00:00:39,190 --> 00:00:37,840 the gold standard of paranormal radio 7 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:39,200 and now 8 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:45,510 last week when chris was on special 9 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:47,120 assignment we had 10 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:49,600 micah hanks as the co-host 11 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:51,520 and during the course of our discussion 12 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:52,719 with micah 13 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:54,640 i mentioned the fact that any time we 14 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:57,280 discuss politics even in relationship to 15 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:00,079 like ufo disclosure or the interest of a 16 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:01,920 president or presidential candidate in 17 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:04,320 ufos some listeners 18 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:07,280 really really get out of shape over it 19 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:09,200 so i asked micah because he has a couple 20 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:11,200 of podcasts going how's it with you when 21 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:13,600 he said about half his listeners love to 22 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,479 hear it 23 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:16,640 half his listeners say 24 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:17,840 ah 25 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:19,680 so you see 26 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:20,960 you can't win 27 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:23,360 yeah i'm going through something similar 28 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:25,920 at on the forums every time i bring up a 29 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,640 post that talks that questions 30 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:30,720 conservative scientism 31 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:33,200 a materialistic view of reality when it 32 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:34,240 comes to 33 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:36,720 you know i think what could be a 34 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:38,400 potential breakthrough that we could 35 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:40,479 make in the paranormal realm 36 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,720 with the study of 37 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:44,799 consciousness and the impact of 38 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:47,360 psychedelics on consciousness 39 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:50,079 i just get shut down i i just there's 40 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:52,720 some people that are so anti-drugs 41 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,119 they're so programmed they're so 42 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:57,920 brainwashed into thinking that drugs are 43 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:00,560 bad you know they'd rather sit there and 44 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:03,119 i'm not talking about this specific 45 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:04,479 individual but 46 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:06,560 some people would rather sit there and 47 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:10,560 drink alcohol gobble oxycontin and then 48 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:12,560 cast aspersions on psychedelics and 49 00:02:16,710 --> 00:02:14,560 anthogens which could 50 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:16,720 provide us with some of the most 51 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:19,440 groundbreaking blasting the door open 52 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:23,440 knowledge about ufos any sort of psychic 53 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:25,520 abilities and and parapsychological 54 00:02:30,309 --> 00:02:28,400 subjects it's just so frustrating to 55 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:30,319 attempt to create you know an 56 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:32,640 open-minded dialogue or create an 57 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:35,200 open-minded forum for this type of 58 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:36,800 suggestion have people suck the air out 59 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:38,239 of it and say well this can't be 60 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:39,760 possible it's all subjective you're 61 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:41,680 following you know what even though it 62 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:44,720 doesn't get to that point the sniffy 63 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:48,640 dismissive point by point uh refutation 64 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:51,360 of anything having to do 65 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,040 with open box thinking around this 66 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:54,959 subject is is so 67 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:57,840 disingenuous the hubris and 68 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:00,080 and the lack of 69 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:02,480 open-mindedness 70 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:05,440 is the same as talking you know going up 71 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:06,879 to grand canyon 72 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:09,519 and listening to uh creationist tour 73 00:03:13,149 --> 00:03:11,519 company trying to explain the grand 74 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:13,159 canyon is only 75 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:15,920 5260 years old or something and it's 76 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,720 it's 77 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:19,120 exactly the same thing in my book when 78 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:21,360 it comes to politics on this show it's 79 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:22,640 our show 80 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:25,040 this is a very important issue 81 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:26,720 it's probably one of the most important 82 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:29,120 elections in the history of the country 83 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:31,200 if you have a problem with that don't 84 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:32,640 listen 85 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:35,040 well said now when it comes to drugs 86 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:37,840 we've had this artificial barrier for so 87 00:03:42,949 --> 00:03:40,720 long certain drugs are okay oxy is fine 88 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:42,959 even if you get addicted to it 89 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:43,840 or 90 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:48,080 weird effects and it's very harmful if 91 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:50,319 you take too much of it and then right 92 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:51,120 now 93 00:03:56,789 --> 00:03:55,680 government will allow scientists to do 94 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:56,799 more work 95 00:04:01,750 --> 00:04:00,000 into looking at the effects of marijuana 96 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:01,760 and you think 20 states in the united 97 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:02,959 states 98 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,120 allow for medical marijuana we're not 99 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,640 talking about recreational drugs here 100 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:08,640 we're talking about something that has a 101 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:11,680 medicinal benefit like reducing the 102 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,640 effects of chemo 103 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:16,560 you know which completely wrecks you 104 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:19,280 possibly having some benefit 105 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,199 well you're dealing with cancer 106 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:23,120 jimmy carter is claiming that 107 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:26,000 the use of medical marijuana has put his 108 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:27,600 cancer in remission 109 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:29,840 i mean there's an ex-president marijuana 110 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:32,320 or cannabis as i prefer to call it is 111 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:34,400 still schedule one 112 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:37,680 schedule one means it has no medical 113 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:40,160 benefit cannabis probably has more 114 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:42,320 medical benefits than any other plant on 115 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:43,440 the planet 116 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:46,000 and the only reason why it's still 117 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:48,240 schedule one and still 118 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:51,280 illegal on a federal level is because of 119 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,320 the tobacco and alcohol lobbies 120 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:56,639 the undue influence of corporations in 121 00:05:01,990 --> 00:04:59,360 this country is getting to the point 122 00:05:03,430 --> 00:05:02,000 where it's really beyond 123 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:03,440 ridiculous 124 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:05,360 i don't know how many studies you need 125 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,400 to present to show the wonderful 126 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:10,479 benefits of cannabis 127 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:12,240 for the government to actually you know 128 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:13,759 do the right thing of course the 129 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:16,400 government now is is quietly and 130 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:18,160 kind of unofficially 131 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:19,600 taken 132 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:21,520 a more lazy fair sort of a hands-off 133 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,360 approach to medical marijuana they're 134 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:25,680 not going in and rating 135 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:26,880 you know feds aren't going in and 136 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:29,199 raiding dispensaries or 137 00:05:33,189 --> 00:05:30,800 you know really making an effort to 138 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:33,199 stamp out cultivation of medical 139 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:36,560 marijuana so we're slowly seeing an 140 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:40,320 easing of the stigma and the 141 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:42,160 ridiculous uh 142 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:45,360 prohibition around this this substance 143 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:46,160 but 144 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:48,080 we still have a long way to go 145 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:50,160 i really uh you know when it comes to 146 00:05:53,590 --> 00:05:52,000 the same with psychedelics i mean my god 147 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:53,600 psychedelics you know they're they're 148 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:56,639 barrier dissolving boundary crashing 149 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,120 they help you wake up and and really see 150 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:01,440 the truth behind things and that's the 151 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:02,720 last thing the government wants or 152 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:04,240 corporations want is you to see the 153 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:05,600 truth about what's really behind what 154 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:07,680 they're up to and how they're doing it 155 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:10,479 and what their potential agendas are and 156 00:06:16,469 --> 00:06:13,600 uh god forbid the great american pubic 157 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:16,479 should wake up one day 158 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:19,120 exactly well there is a 159 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:22,240 ballot proposition i believe in arizona 160 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:23,759 now to legalize 161 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:25,759 marijuana that will be on the ballot in 162 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:27,840 november how that will fare 163 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,600 in arizona red state arizona who knows 164 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:33,199 you see we're getting back into politics 165 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:35,039 but the one thing i just want to say 166 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:36,800 very quickly before we get back into our 167 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:40,479 subject matter with regard to cannabis 168 00:06:43,909 --> 00:06:41,440 now 169 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:43,919 when my late brother-in-law stephen 170 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:44,960 was on 171 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:47,280 chemo his second dosage they gave him 172 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:48,880 more of it in the hopes of really 173 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:50,479 dissolving 174 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:52,400 that tumor he had pancreatic cancer 175 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,400 which is very much a death sentence for 176 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:56,400 most people anyway 177 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:57,520 he 178 00:07:01,189 --> 00:06:59,039 pretty much 179 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:01,199 died then and there because it just took 180 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:02,960 so much out of him 181 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:05,919 and if he had had 182 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:08,400 cannabis to help reduce those symptoms 183 00:07:12,629 --> 00:07:10,319 i very much think it might have gone 184 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:12,639 easier for him well 185 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:14,160 but they didn't bother they should have 186 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,240 because medical marijuana is allowed in 187 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:18,960 arizona well 188 00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:21,039 well just the whole subject of chemo i 189 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:22,479 mean chemo probably kills more people 190 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:23,919 than the cancer does 191 00:07:28,629 --> 00:07:26,400 there are experimental 192 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:28,639 medications of all kinds some where they 193 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,199 literally rebuild your immune system to 194 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:33,440 fight the cancer and they're making all 195 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:36,080 sorts of amazing progress but where is 196 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:38,800 e.t when we needed them you know yeah we 197 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:40,880 see all these messages 198 00:07:45,350 --> 00:07:43,120 e.t is going to channel 199 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:45,360 these creatures from whatever you know 200 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:47,120 there's i told you a couple of times in 201 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:48,960 the show i get these messages on 202 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:52,160 facebook where this woman says the star 203 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:55,440 beings from zeta reticuli they must be 204 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:57,840 pretty hot if they're living in stars 205 00:08:02,150 --> 00:08:00,560 are being channeled fine i'll ask you a 206 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:02,160 question 207 00:08:07,189 --> 00:08:04,240 my brother-in-law didn't hurt anybody 208 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,199 why is he dead from cancer why can't e.t 209 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:09,759 get in there and do something about it 210 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:11,120 what about all the other people what 211 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:13,759 about my what about my mother-in-law who 212 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:15,919 died at 60 from pancreatic cancer she 213 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:18,720 never hurt anybody all she did was be 214 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:20,560 nice to people and she was very funny 215 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:22,560 and she was the only person on the 216 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:23,840 planet 217 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:25,599 gwen kaplan the only person on the 218 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:33,509 i just laughed at one 219 00:08:37,029 --> 00:08:35,360 well she was a really great person why 220 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:37,039 did she have to die at 16. why'd you 221 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:39,120 have to die a year before 222 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:42,640 her grandson grayson was born 223 00:08:47,509 --> 00:08:45,600 what is e.t doing for us e.t allegedly 224 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:47,519 has been in touch with us 225 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:49,200 for all these years 226 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:50,880 giving us messages of peace and 227 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:52,880 brotherhood and we have people being 228 00:08:57,750 --> 00:08:54,480 beheaded yeah we get in the politics 229 00:08:59,190 --> 00:08:57,760 again we have people dying of cancer 230 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:59,200 we have people being 231 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:01,760 hit because of automobile accidents we 232 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:04,320 have a actor for example where there was 233 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:06,880 a defect in his jeep 234 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,240 and the he stopped his car to check his 235 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:12,399 mail or something and the car backed 236 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:14,240 into him and killed him 237 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,680 and everybody can see his last 238 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:17,920 performance by the way because he played 239 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,200 chekov on 240 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:21,120 the new star trek series 241 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:22,320 well you could say the same thing well 242 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:23,920 why does god allow these things to 243 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,640 happen you know we're dealing with uh 244 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:28,880 a combination of 245 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:31,040 really conservative outmoded thinking 246 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:31,839 and 247 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,279 irrational 248 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:35,279 attempts at forward thinking 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second chapter from that book 378 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:04,959 with chris and 379 00:15:11,189 --> 00:15:08,000 his great friend ray stanford with chris 380 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:11,199 and ray stanford and the second chapter 381 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:13,680 is ready we'll put it up only available 382 00:15:16,710 --> 00:15:14,560 to 383 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,720 powercast plus subscribers 384 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:18,560 after the powercast the commercial free 385 00:15:23,790 --> 00:15:20,320 version of this show 386 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:23,800 what more could you ask there'll be more 387 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:29,910 and what this means is 388 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:31,120 you've got to get something really 389 00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:32,560 special there for a low subscription 390 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:35,199 rate so walter bosley let's bring you up 391 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:37,680 today on what we're talking about here 392 00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:39,120 we're talking about the 393 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:40,880 treacherous version 394 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:44,160 of our world hero nothing is working and 395 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:46,560 e.t supposedly is out there and et won't 396 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:47,760 help us 397 00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:49,680 we have people who claim they are 398 00:15:54,629 --> 00:15:52,800 channeling messages from the beings from 399 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,639 zeta reticulite 400 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:56,399 very hot beings because that's a binary 401 00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:57,680 star system 402 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:00,399 right and these hot beings are channeled 403 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:02,880 but we have people here dying of cancer 404 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:04,720 we have people here being beheaded by 405 00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:06,079 isis 406 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,040 we have people here being killed in auto 407 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:11,680 accidents like anton yelchin the actor 408 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:13,680 who played chekhov in the new star trek 409 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:16,480 series where he stopped his car and it 410 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:18,880 backed into him because of some kind of 411 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:20,480 brake transmission issue and they're 412 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:22,399 suing jeep by the way and i hope they 413 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:23,680 win a hundred million dollars for 414 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:26,000 everybody yeah yeah yeah so by the way 415 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:27,519 the jeep's never going to advertise here 416 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:29,360 we're not going to have any ads from 417 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:31,600 fiat chrysler as a result of that but 418 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:33,360 you see what's happening e.t isn't doing 419 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:34,399 anything 420 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:35,680 now even if it's a breakaway 421 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:37,680 civilization wouldn't they care 422 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:41,120 about us to help well actually um i 423 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,880 think people ought to consider 424 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:45,600 what what is this telling us it's it 425 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:46,800 tells me 426 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:47,680 that 427 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:50,160 maybe et hasn't solved all these issues 428 00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:52,720 themselves the ets are probably dealing 429 00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:53,839 with the same 430 00:16:59,670 --> 00:16:56,160 you know imperfections uh too many 431 00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,680 people assume that et must come from 432 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,240 some utopia and i've disagreed with that 433 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:04,400 for a while you know i i think there's 434 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,039 et's out there with um a decidedly um 435 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:11,520 you know sinister or corrupt motivation 436 00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,600 just as easily as there would be those 437 00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:15,839 with you know an altruistic motivation 438 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:16,640 so 439 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:23,039 looking at all this differently um 440 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,760 because it's the age-old thing why god 441 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:27,360 why you know with all the human 442 00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,720 suffering well 443 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,000 you know that gets into the 444 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:32,640 philosophical aspect me personally i and 445 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:34,720 people don't like to hear this but 446 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:37,120 this ridiculous notion of creating some 447 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:39,360 you know perfect utopia in the physical 448 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:41,200 material earth here 449 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:42,799 is kind of childish 450 00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:45,440 i think the suffering 451 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,360 is why we're here 452 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:49,760 and it's supposed to be 453 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:50,720 um 454 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:53,280 you know part of that experience part of 455 00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:54,960 you know all that classic stuff you hear 456 00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:56,799 about you know building your character 457 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:59,200 making you understand the uh you know 458 00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,880 the nature of the full spectrum of 459 00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:02,480 reality i i just think that's part of 460 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,840 the reason we're here 461 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:06,000 and you know part of that is to see how 462 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:07,760 we react 463 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:11,120 to this adversity emotional boot camp 464 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:13,600 yeah so we're being prepped to see if we 465 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:16,799 really can hack it is that what it is um 466 00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:19,120 yeah for for whatever it is that we 467 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,600 actually discover is beyond i i think 468 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:24,000 that um i'm a reincarnationist i think 469 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:26,240 reincar you know i accept 470 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:28,400 the concept of reincarnation i also 471 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:30,400 accept that this idea that there is kind 472 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:32,960 of a veil of amnesia that each time you 473 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:35,280 go into a life you you you're blocked 474 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:37,600 from you know the full memory of what 475 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:38,960 it's like on that 476 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:41,360 that other side because it's so much 477 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,640 better than this everybody would be 478 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:44,640 killing themselves if they could 479 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:46,559 access you know how much better it is 480 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:48,080 this is my opinion 481 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:49,520 um 482 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,799 so uh 483 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,799 yeah i just think it's it's part of the 484 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:54,400 deal yeah 485 00:18:59,350 --> 00:18:56,880 do you believe in a a white-haired 486 00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,360 long-bearded white man sitting on the 487 00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:01,440 throne in the clouds in heaven 488 00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:02,559 um 489 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:05,919 you supposedly wrote this book that 490 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,840 we're all supposed to believe in uh you 491 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:09,440 know the 492 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,600 lock stock and barrel word for word 493 00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:14,080 but why does it have to be a white man 494 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:17,520 men wrote that book first of all 495 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,400 second of all no i don't believe in that 496 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:22,880 necessarily a specific 497 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:23,760 model 498 00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:24,720 but i 499 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:25,919 do 500 00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:32,080 is a is a being with a distinct 501 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:34,080 personality and 502 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:37,039 sentience yeah i call him the old no 503 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,280 it's a 14 year old pimply-faced kid in 504 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:41,039 some parallel universe and we're nothing 505 00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:43,360 but a software program and it's a video 506 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,400 game he looks like clint howard yeah 507 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:48,880 from that episode of star trek yeah 508 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:51,600 we're just the characters in a vr 509 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:53,440 software program from some other 510 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,760 dimension i mean i'm convinced i'll tell 511 00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:58,240 you what though i don't like this game 512 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:00,799 i want to change the rules i want to do 513 00:20:06,150 --> 00:20:03,760 what captain kirk did yeah kobayashi 514 00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:06,160 marui exactly i want to do what captain 515 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:08,799 kirk did because that way 516 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,200 he didn't believe in knowing scenarios 517 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:12,880 and i don't either i want right now i 518 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,960 got to change a few things 519 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:16,240 and you know you know what my view on 520 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:18,000 that is i'm glad you brought that up 521 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:19,360 i think 522 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:21,440 the the kirk solution 523 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:24,080 is what this god being is looking for us 524 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:26,400 to do see this business of being these 525 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,000 scared little creatures who are supposed 526 00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:30,480 to be on our knees and cowering i don't 527 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:32,480 i don't think a god being would want 528 00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:35,120 that a god being wants us to have some 529 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,840 balls to stand up on the two feet you 530 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:39,600 know and and look him in the eye and say 531 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:42,000 hey what the f you know and then he'll 532 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,360 explain what the f you know 533 00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:45,520 theoretically but the the point is i 534 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:47,440 think he's looking for us to do that 535 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,000 he's looking for us to have the um the 536 00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,400 audacity to think wait a minute you know 537 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,559 i can change my situation i don't have 538 00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,000 to buy this 539 00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:58,480 and i i think that's that's part of the 540 00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,640 struggle part of life 541 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:02,720 is you know it's looking to see how far 542 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,360 it can push us before we take action 543 00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:07,120 and uh and so it's like going to the 544 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,159 window 545 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,559 and saying i'm mad as hell and i can't 546 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,720 take exactly exactly i'm not going to 547 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,960 take it anymore exactly and that's what 548 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,880 in my particular case i refer to you 549 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:18,799 know i say god and him you know you can 550 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:20,320 say whatever you want in your personal 551 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,919 concept but i say that's what he's 552 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,240 looking for he's looking for it's like 553 00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,240 he it's kind of like he's rutger hauer 554 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,240 in the climax of blade runner where he's 555 00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,480 pushing around harrison ford and he says 556 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:32,080 that point where he says that's the 557 00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,200 spirit you know that's god to me he's 558 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,880 you know poking and poking and poking 559 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:38,640 until we get pissed off and say you 560 00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:40,400 bastard and then he smiles and he says 561 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,799 that's the spirit there you go right 562 00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,240 well i think it's a little bit more than 563 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:45,919 that i think it's not only 564 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,120 overcoming adversity and you know 565 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,039 showing you know spiritual and 566 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,120 intestinal it's showing compassion 567 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:54,720 but but but it's compassion but it's 568 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,840 also 569 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:57,360 creating 570 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:58,559 fun 571 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:01,520 and having happiness in our lives if you 572 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:02,240 can 573 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:06,720 are so far ahead of the curve and you're 574 00:22:12,149 --> 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720 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,559 help them fix things because the 721 00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,799 solutions being offered aren't working 722 00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,640 yeah how do we know that donald trump 723 00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:01,360 isn't an alien agent that's the first 724 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:02,880 time i've heard you refer to hillary as 725 00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,760 a sociopath that's very yeah well you're 726 00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:07,120 making progress 727 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:10,000 or hillary too hillary is infinitely 728 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:13,120 more scary as far as i'm concerned but 729 00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:14,840 before we go 730 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:18,080 on i just took it back i'm just 731 00:28:21,789 --> 00:28:20,080 generally tired of both sides that's why 732 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:21,799 i avoid it 733 00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:25,360 strawberry fields 734 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:28,720 what we can't make a huge mistake and go 735 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,549 so these aliens i think their hands are 736 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,440 just as full as ours and their attitude 737 00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,600 is you guys fix your own crap 738 00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,600 yeah 739 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,520 well the thing that you realize from 740 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:44,720 star trek 741 00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,279 although it looks like the federation 742 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,039 has kind of sort of gotten it together 743 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,799 they're still embroiled in 744 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,880 ridiculous politics just as we are now 745 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,279 in the 23rd century and you've got 746 00:29:02,870 --> 00:28:59,440 advanced beings around the galaxy who 747 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:02,880 are just as dangerous as humans and more 748 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:06,480 so the klingons the romulans so 749 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,520 probably in the real universe 750 00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:12,159 that may not be so far off just because 751 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,600 we can get some 752 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:15,200 fancy stuff 753 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:16,799 just because we can build fancy 754 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:19,120 spaceships you know 755 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,720 it is no different wherever you go in 756 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:22,799 the universe so just embrace the crap 757 00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,840 and enjoy it you know go for the ride 758 00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,760 i just realized something 759 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:29,600 there's this weird 760 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,320 you know life imitating art thing going 761 00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:34,799 on with the star trek universe 762 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:37,760 isn't there a race of nasty guys called 763 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,549 all of a sudden made that connection oh 764 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,399 my god 765 00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,480 well actually there are nice 766 00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:50,559 kardashians and 767 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,480 and bad ones you know it's like every 768 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,440 other race or collection of both 769 00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:57,360 and the nice ones 770 00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:59,279 have taken the time 771 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,840 to get all that plastic surgery and the 772 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,279 not nice ones 773 00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:05,360 haven't right is that what you're saying 774 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,789 i couldn't resist 775 00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:14,799 it's like the klingons and uranus joke 776 00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:17,200 it's like oh my god kardashians that's 777 00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,320 oh 778 00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:20,399 no wonder i didn't like them 779 00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,000 exactly exactly that was a show stopper 780 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:26,559 well we also have the ferengi 781 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,640 in star trek yeah they're kind of cool 782 00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:30,799 because they got them big ears 783 00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:33,679 that's right like like those big bulbous 784 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,240 heads with the big brow ridges and 785 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,240 it was played by armin shimmerman who's 786 00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,399 a great character actor 787 00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,159 you know a guy who does great voices and 788 00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:46,880 everything that pointy teeth 789 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:49,679 is that what did it yeah 790 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,200 yeah when you when you rape a ferenge 791 00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,960 you sit there and massage their ears 792 00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:56,399 right 793 00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:59,039 exactly 794 00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:00,799 before we go on 795 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:02,960 i should tell you here that 796 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:06,799 walter has a pc not a mac 797 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:09,200 all right 798 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:10,640 microsoft 799 00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:16,320 phone skype so you think with the pc hey 800 00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:17,200 guys 801 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:18,960 with a pc 802 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:21,360 skype would work better right 803 00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,240 you're wrong we have more problems with 804 00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:27,120 pcs running skype than max 805 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,710 money 806 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,640 i can't afford a mac i used to be able 807 00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,440 to afford a mac i had one for uh the 808 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,360 same one for like five years and it was 809 00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:41,600 wonderful until it just finally died on 810 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,399 me and uh couldn't afford to replace it 811 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:46,320 so i'll tell you something let me give 812 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,200 you 813 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,519 reality check reality check 814 00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:51,840 you can get a mac portable a macbook air 815 00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,159 for 8.99 816 00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:56,799 i don't know please maybe maybe those 817 00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,120 zeta reticulins that are you know care 818 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,200 about us so much maybe they'll buy me 819 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:02,799 one 820 00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:07,120 i got a used macbook for 250 dollars 821 00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:12,710 oh okay yeah 822 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,039 i'll i'll check that out yeah this this 823 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:17,760 damn thing i got usually i'm uh 824 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:20,480 uh involved in the uh purchase of my 825 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,360 computers but this was a gift that uh my 826 00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,120 sister got me off the 827 00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:27,440 home shopping network 828 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,720 you know she doesn't know the first 829 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,200 thing about my my needs 830 00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,440 you know stuff for computers so i 831 00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,960 figured well i'll give it a shot and 832 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,880 it's been nothing but a nightmare it's 833 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,240 an hp 834 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:40,799 okay i'm looking here at the pricing 835 00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,679 now a used macbook air 836 00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:46,320 of a fairly recent generation 837 00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:48,559 is four to five hundred dollars 838 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:50,880 well see that's that's yeah that and 839 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,960 what he said about 250 you know that's 840 00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:55,279 that's within the range of when i have 841 00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,399 money so 842 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,640 this is this is promising i i think i'll 843 00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,720 go back and 844 00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:02,559 take a look at my possibilities to get a 845 00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,750 mac because 846 00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,519 [Applause] 847 00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:11,190 if you don't need a notebook it can live 848 00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,880 with a desktop computer and you already 849 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,640 have like an old display or a keyboard 850 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:16,000 and mouse 851 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:17,440 you can get yourself 852 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:22,720 for 4.99 retail and they've got refurbs 853 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,200 for like 3.99 854 00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,360 oh wow wow that's a good deal yeah 855 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,120 that's just a desktop computer it's a 856 00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:31,279 small desktop computer about two inches 857 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,080 high 858 00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,159 and it'll work with you know any old 859 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,559 display keyboard mouse 860 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,600 yeah i've seen those i've seen those 861 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,880 cool okay 862 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,960 and compared to what you have now it is 863 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:45,600 sir a revelation 864 00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:46,880 oh yeah 865 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:49,640 anyway we were talking before about 866 00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:53,360 extraterrestrial races from 867 00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:56,799 star wars ferenges of course the 868 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:01,039 role of quark the chief sales person 869 00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,640 from the ferengi 870 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,399 was played by an actor named armin 871 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,720 shimmerman who is jewish so you see the 872 00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,720 the ultimate 873 00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,000 slur there 874 00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:11,839 yeah a little stereotyping going on huh 875 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:15,599 that's right pick a jew to play 876 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:22,230 i just i like the pointed teeth 877 00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:24,560 nice a nice touch 878 00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:26,800 but in all fairness aren't there you 879 00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:29,520 know a lot of folks that are actors that 880 00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:32,079 happen to be jewish 881 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,919 well you see nowadays it doesn't matter 882 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,000 anymore like it used to be you know in 883 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,240 the old days the jew had to change their 884 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,839 name 885 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,320 to be something that was 886 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:44,560 mid-american or something 887 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,440 yeah now you use your real name 888 00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,320 even if it's unpronounceable 889 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:52,240 use your real name 890 00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,919 you know 891 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,800 right 892 00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,879 you know like an actor from great 893 00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:58,880 britain welshman 894 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,280 johan griffith 895 00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:04,320 now yeah right he played in the original 896 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:07,040 fantastic four mr fantastic 897 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:10,000 he was on an abc tv show 898 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,680 recently where he plays a guy who can't 899 00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,560 die 900 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:14,079 who lives forever 901 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,200 and he's you know 902 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:16,720 and you hear him in his native british 903 00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:19,760 accent he's a really charming actor 904 00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:22,320 but if you look at the way he spells his 905 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,320 name which is the way 906 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,880 he was born that way 907 00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:28,960 johan griffith 908 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,440 it doesn't look like that at all 909 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,920 no uh 910 00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,760 yeah welsh is one of definitely one of 911 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,359 those languages where 912 00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:39,839 you know my uh 913 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:41,599 my dad's mom could 914 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,119 uh speak the gaelic but 915 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,880 man that that didn't get passed down 916 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,200 that's for sure 917 00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:51,760 exactly exactly 918 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:54,000 it was a series called forever by the 919 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:55,040 way 920 00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:56,640 okay 921 00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,000 yeah i never saw it i'll check it out 922 00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,880 but i remember it when it was 923 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,119 i'm enjoying this uh netflix series 924 00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,280 called stranger things 925 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,119 oh yeah i watched that first season 926 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:09,760 already on that a couple weeks ago 927 00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:11,920 it has montag written all over it it 928 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:14,240 sounds 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things i saw the first episode 1060 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:08,640 only i'll watch the rest probably this 1061 00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,040 weekend yeah it has an 80s feel to it 1062 00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,680 so i was going to say it's like a homage 1063 00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,160 to spielberg and 1064 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:20,000 i mean every which way but loose it's 1065 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:23,200 like the goonies uh meets 1066 00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:24,160 uh 1067 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,960 poltergeist meets a little stephen king 1068 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,880 thrown in there with a 1069 00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:31,200 a little bit of um i don't know twilight 1070 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,640 zone it's it's really good i i i kind of 1071 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,079 had a little problem with it the first 1072 00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,680 couple episodes but 1073 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,119 it definitely is worth hanging in there 1074 00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:41,599 for it and and it really it really goes 1075 00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,640 into some 1076 00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:44,880 interesting um 1077 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,839 you know science fiction tinged uh 1078 00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,880 you know 1079 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,119 almost reality uh physics and and 1080 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,359 science and you know classified project 1081 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:55,520 type stuff and it's it's definitely 1082 00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:56,720 worth uh 1083 00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,680 it's it's worth a gander 1084 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,200 and there's two things off the top of my 1085 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,520 head first of all the girl who's part of 1086 00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:04,960 the project the girl with the shaved 1087 00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:05,839 head 1088 00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,839 she she's really good 1089 00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,680 what a good little actress yeah she's 1090 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,920 very good and she had to volunteer by 1091 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,960 the way 1092 00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,640 to have her head shaved for that role 1093 00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,000 it's not something where she's wearing a 1094 00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,040 skull cap they shaved her head 1095 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,800 that's right that's right her 1096 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,400 hair is really cut the other thing is 1097 00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,800 winona ryder's performance 1098 00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:26,480 she must have 1099 00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:28,960 you know come off of this thing just 1100 00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:31,440 exhausted because when you watch that 1101 00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:37,280 whole season she is frantic in like 99 1102 00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,319 well you know how they did that walter 1103 00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,079 they just put in a contract that in 1104 00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:44,800 order to uh you know to get into that 1105 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:47,839 kind of method acting mode um we are 1106 00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,960 contractually obliging you uh to go off 1107 00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,880 your meds uh during the production of 1108 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,040 the show and so that's that's actually 1109 00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:57,760 winona ryder you know it's just she's 1110 00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:03,270 oh lordy 1111 00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:08,790 but she yeah she's just i mean through 1112 00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,680 the whole thing she maintains a level of 1113 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:13,839 uh you know 1114 00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,000 just intense you know 1115 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,319 frantic intensity that 1116 00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,240 a little bit overacting going on there 1117 00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,160 but you know what it is that she's very 1118 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,319 pissed off over the fact 1119 00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:26,640 that in the star trek reboot the very 1120 00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:29,680 first star trek reboot from 2009 she's 1121 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,839 playing spock's mother and they killed 1122 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,440 her off 1123 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:35,520 and she's still pissed off and that's 1124 00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:38,720 how she got into this role 1125 00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:41,200 you think yeah no 1126 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,240 whatever you say there geno 1127 00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:47,119 hey uh it's uh it it's definitely 1128 00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,319 something i'm looking forward to the 1129 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,280 next season of that's yeah 1130 00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,200 it's it's going to be interesting 1131 00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:56,000 speaking of netflix i've you know i 1132 00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:57,920 surfed through there a lot and i watched 1133 00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,960 a documentary recently on uh it's called 1134 00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:02,720 chaos on the bridge written and directed 1135 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,240 by shatner and narrated by him 1136 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,880 but it's a documentary on the creation 1137 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,880 of and the making of star trek the next 1138 00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,440 generation which i'm not a fan of but 1139 00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,200 the documentary was 1140 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:17,760 really interesting you know it goes into 1141 00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:19,839 all the um 1142 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,880 all the uh drama you know that gene 1143 00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,280 roddenberry had brought to it and and 1144 00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:27,040 you know show runners and stuff it's 1145 00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:28,400 really interesting you should check it 1146 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:30,839 out yeah it's i i did it was very very 1147 00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,280 interesting and uh and also there's 1148 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,800 another one called the captains too 1149 00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,880 which looks at all the uh 1150 00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,280 the captains on the star trek uh lexicon 1151 00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:41,760 and the star trek universe and how they 1152 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,240 all approach their roles um you know and 1153 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,000 how they learn from each other which is 1154 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:48,160 also very good and also how patrick 1155 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:49,200 stewart 1156 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,760 was quite an unlikely choice for the 1157 00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:52,960 role and there was quite a bit of 1158 00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:55,680 controversy around his being selected to 1159 00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:57,280 be 1160 00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,119 jean-luc picard 1161 00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:01,200 and there's some real nice little hidden 1162 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,400 gems in there i've always been a big 1163 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,720 star trek fan um 1164 00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,040 i haven't watched voyager 1165 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,119 isn't that the one with uh 1166 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,640 what's her name as the captain um 1167 00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,280 i liked her as the captain on that um 1168 00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,599 i just never seen it 1169 00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,599 i i didn't watch all the episodes but i 1170 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,839 tended that one for some reason 1171 00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:24,640 i liked a little better than uh i just i 1172 00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,119 was just never a next generation fan 1173 00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,280 uh df9 didn't do it for me the 1174 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,599 enterprise one i liked scott bakula but 1175 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,760 yeah he was very good yeah now let me 1176 00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:35,359 just tell you something about patrick 1177 00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,400 stewart 1178 00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,720 in star trek the next generation 1179 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,920 remember we're talking about a 1180 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:41,920 shakespearean actor in his mid or late 1181 00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:43,920 40s right okay 1182 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:46,640 until he got that role 1183 00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,880 and i heard him say this story on the 1184 00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:50,640 howard stern 1185 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,880 where he said he was maybe making 1186 00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,640 at his best maybe a couple of hundred 1187 00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,720 pounds a week 1188 00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:58,880 in the 80s which is you know maybe like 1189 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,400 making 1190 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,880 250 a week in american money or 1191 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,640 something like that 1192 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,319 and today would be like making three or 1193 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,280 four hundred guy was making barely 1194 00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:11,040 living wage 1195 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,720 he never made anything more like that 1196 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:13,920 and suddenly 1197 00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:16,079 he gets his job 1198 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,680 and probably didn't take it seriously 1199 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:19,680 until he really got into it because he's 1200 00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,520 a very serious 1201 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:23,599 dedicated actor and suddenly he's 1202 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:26,160 getting 50 000 a week to be captain 1203 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,680 picard 1204 00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,160 and he never saw money like that before 1205 00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:32,319 i think he lived over somebody's garage 1206 00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,560 or something for the first year because 1207 00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,839 he didn't 1208 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,400 feel that he was yet worthy of having 1209 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:40,000 money because remember 1210 00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:41,680 about a middle-aged guy 1211 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:44,240 who had never done anything but barely 1212 00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,560 eke out a living as an actor 1213 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,200 yeah i mean uh you know the only movie 1214 00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,880 that i recalled ever seeing him in 1215 00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,800 before he appeared on star trek the tv 1216 00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,000 series 1217 00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,319 was excalibur 1218 00:48:00,550 --> 00:47:58,480 and you know he has a kind of a small 1219 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:00,560 supporting role in that 1220 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,680 but his agent told him that the show 1221 00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:05,680 would probably not even last a year so 1222 00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:07,680 he wasn't expecting much out of it and 1223 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,079 it just took him by surprise but 1224 00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:12,240 roddenberry didn't want him initially he 1225 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,359 said you know i can't have this 1226 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:15,280 middle-aged bald guy 1227 00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,720 you know uh 1228 00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,800 being the follow-up to kirk well of 1229 00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,319 course he could always have kirk without 1230 00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:21,920 his hair piece and then he'd have to be 1231 00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,319 a middle-aged bald guy 1232 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:25,680 yeah exactly 1233 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,760 but you see it's very interesting here 1234 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,200 when when they got towards the end of 1235 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,119 the season and he was putting on a punch 1236 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,119 that's when you'd see the episodes where 1237 00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,200 where shatner would wear that wraparound 1238 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:36,960 uniform shirt 1239 00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:40,240 because it was hiding his uh punch 1240 00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,359 well that's 1241 00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:43,520 his fault he needs to work out 1242 00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,880 now you know looking at salaries of tv 1243 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,680 i was looking up the original superman 1244 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,520 show from the 50s where george reeves 1245 00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:54,480 was the highest paid actor 1246 00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,599 on tv 1247 00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,359 ever making several thousand dollars a 1248 00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:58,720 week 1249 00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:01,520 but let's look at the people who 1250 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,960 appeared with him 1251 00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,280 like jack larson as jimmy olsen and noah 1252 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,920 o'neill as lois lane they got like 200 1253 00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,680 an episode 1254 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:11,599 they killed him 1255 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,319 probably they got like 200 an episode as 1256 00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,160 a matter of fact noel o'neal after she 1257 00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:18,559 finished playing lois lane she ended up 1258 00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,520 working 1259 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,079 in the publicity department 1260 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,400 of a movie company she never acted again 1261 00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,240 until like they brought back her 1262 00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,720 character for about 10 seconds in 1263 00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,400 superman the movie where you see her as 1264 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,640 lois lane's mother unidentified on a 1265 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,000 train 1266 00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:36,880 yeah and the guy in that and the guy 1267 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,119 who played her father lois lane's father 1268 00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:41,680 was played by kirk allen who was the 1269 00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,720 original movie superman and that's all 1270 00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,040 the roles he could get because after he 1271 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,839 appeared to superman in two serials kirk 1272 00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:51,680 allen played i think one other movie 1273 00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,319 serial and then got practically no roles 1274 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,800 ever his career was done see that's the 1275 00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,400 difference in those days 1276 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,480 you became a character who was a 1277 00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:03,119 household name you were so typecast you 1278 00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:06,319 could never get another part nowadays 1279 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,559 it's no big deal chris pine for example 1280 00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:10,640 is captain kirk and then they brought 1281 00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:13,359 him back as jack ryan the tom clancy 1282 00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:14,400 character 1283 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,400 door for different actors right well 1284 00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,400 there's a lot of stories about that too 1285 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,839 and then 1286 00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,800 he 1287 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,800 now plays 1288 00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:26,400 steve trevor 1289 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:27,119 in 1290 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,720 wonder woman 1291 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:30,240 so he leads off a lot of different 1292 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,760 series and nobody says oh this is 1293 00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,000 captain kirk you can't do that 1294 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,400 it's a point where oh this is a good 1295 00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,880 actor and they could do that 1296 00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,520 yeah exactly 1297 00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,119 how do we get from 1298 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,200 star trek 1299 00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:47,280 and all this stuff 1300 00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:48,319 from 1301 00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,319 aliens oh because of course the way star 1302 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,440 trek depicted aliens was that realistic 1303 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:55,920 and 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00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:40,720 who is i think the ceo of one of the 1393 00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:43,200 divisions of hp because she supports 1394 00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:46,160 hillary clinton your computer won't work 1395 00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:48,559 i thought it was my ferengi uh uh ear 1396 00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:50,720 joke 1397 00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,559 he has to put them on when he does skype 1398 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:53,920 by the way you haven't seen what walter 1399 00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:56,240 looks like he's wearing his ferenge ears 1400 00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:57,359 right now right 1401 00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:59,359 yeah you're right exactly yeah i've got 1402 00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,400 those on 1403 00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,839 oh speaking of 1404 00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:03,359 things are coming 1405 00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,599 at the end of september we've 1406 00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:07,280 tentatively booked 1407 00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,760 stanton friedman and kathleen martin for 1408 00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:11,119 a new book 1409 00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:15,119 entitled fact fiction and flying saucers 1410 00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,400 all right folks 1411 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,640 that should be a good one next week we 1412 00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,160 have paul davids 1413 00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:22,640 all right i thought we had party six 1414 00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:25,520 killer clark back on by popular demand 1415 00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:26,800 following week 1416 00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:29,599 okay and we're also working on jim mars 1417 00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:32,079 i think it's a perfect time for a little 1418 00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:34,960 conspiracy folks 1419 00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,839 walker you've explored lots of stuff do 1420 00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,599 you subscribe to any of these conspiracy 1421 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,200 theories jfk 1422 00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,280 911 or any of that stuff 1423 00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:45,599 is that for me or chris chris his name 1424 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,280 is not walter oh i i missed my name um 1425 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:51,599 yeah i i you know i don't buy that 1426 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:54,880 oswald was the lone gunman and uh 1427 00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,119 sure yeah to me it's 1428 00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:59,280 a lot of the stuff it just makes more 1429 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:01,760 sense than the bs that we're told you 1430 00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,240 don't believe at all though that his 1431 00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:07,359 accomplice was ted cruz father oh no i 1432 00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:08,559 don't 1433 00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:13,200 how about herbert walker bush being 1434 00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,280 there on this on the steps of the book 1435 00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,040 depository i've seen the photographs 1436 00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,440 it's definitely him it's well see that's 1437 00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,680 the thing is that whole thing about how 1438 00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:23,920 you don't get a clear answer you know 1439 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:25,599 out of him as to where he was on that 1440 00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:27,119 day uh 1441 00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,000 you know 1442 00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,559 he says he doesn't remember yeah he 1443 00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,559 doesn't remember 1444 00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,280 okay hw what happened then is that he 1445 00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,760 was a manchurian candidate 1446 00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:40,079 and someone calls him on the phone says 1447 00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,880 kayak and he becomes an assassin no that 1448 00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:45,200 didn't happen 1449 00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:46,400 but really 1450 00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,390 see it's it's his identical twin if it's 1451 00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,240 not there's even a photograph that looks 1452 00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,799 like w was there 1453 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,960 which is impossible unless you believe 1454 00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,359 um andrew basiago and the 1455 00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,280 time travel stuff 1456 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:07,680 no that's not true 1457 00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:10,720 i mean the guy's 70 71 i think 1458 00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,599 no w if you said it looks like w's there 1459 00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,680 yeah george w bush 1460 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,079 right by 1965 we're talking about a guy 1461 00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:19,760 who would have been what 21 1462 00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,960 no he was um 1463 00:57:27,220 --> 00:57:24,400 17 i think 1464 00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:27,230 oh yeah okay 1465 00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:28,319 [Music] 1466 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:29,119 okay 1467 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,240 like a young a really young w then 1468 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:34,240 all right you're right 17 1469 00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,040 in 1470 00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:37,040 1963. 1471 00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:41,040 he was born in 1946 w 1472 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:43,200 okay so he's 70. 1473 00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:46,160 exactly well dan rather another 1474 00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,880 interesting uh character who 1475 00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,720 has made some um 1476 00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,319 interesting contradictory statements 1477 00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,720 over the years about his exact 1478 00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:57,040 whereabouts uh during the actual event 1479 00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,559 um there's a lot of weird stuff 1480 00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,640 attention now dan radford by the way is 1481 00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,760 a texan 1482 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,200 i believe 1483 00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:07,440 yes he is he is a texan there's a lot of 1484 00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,160 interesting stuff that's uh surrounding 1485 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:12,720 um that event it's i think it actually 1486 00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,200 is is almost up there in one of the 1487 00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,200 um more 1488 00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,440 significant paranormal events because of 1489 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,559 all the uncertainty and all the 1490 00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:25,119 possibilities of multiple players 1491 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,799 unbeknownst to one another it almost has 1492 00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,200 a paranormal-esque sort of 1493 00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,680 you know orchestrated event on some 1494 00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:34,079 other some other level like that had to 1495 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:36,160 happen and they exhausted all whoever 1496 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:39,200 they are exhausted all part uh probably 1497 00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:41,040 all efforts to make make it happen 1498 00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:43,200 because history needed that event to 1499 00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:44,240 occur 1500 00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,720 you know i'm looking here at dan rather 1501 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,319 and i am trying to bring back the 1502 00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,240 paranormal into our paranormal show okay 1503 00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,319 we're anchoring it here too 1504 00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,280 dan radford's 84 so he would have been 1505 00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:57,599 in 1963 1506 00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,109 perfect there it is we solved the 1507 00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:05,040 problem dan rather did it he covered it 1508 00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:06,240 for cbs 1509 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:08,000 the answer to the mystery of kenneth 1510 00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:10,480 what is the frequency 1511 00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:11,599 maybe it has something to do with the 1512 00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,079 jfk thing no it's 1513 00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:16,880 i think it was how hot his wife was uh 1514 00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:22,150 but who was kenneth 1515 00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:24,319 well i know who killed kennedy the star 1516 00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,440 beings from zeta reticuli 1517 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:29,440 there you go 1518 00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:34,240 was some parallel universe sort of uh 1519 00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:37,119 you know quincunx event that uh 1520 00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,799 talk about it in uh in both um what is 1521 00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:42,559 it empire of the wheel three 1522 00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:46,640 i think um and uh i touch on it in 1523 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,760 origins but in empire the wheel three i 1524 00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:51,760 i think it had something to do with the 1525 00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,960 cabal that's 1526 00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:54,799 doing the uh 1527 01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:57,359 you know the the the 1528 01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:00,640 psychological black magic on the masses 1529 01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:01,680 um 1530 01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:04,640 you know the the same guy 1531 01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:07,680 yeah the same guys that um 1532 01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:11,760 in in my analysis i i present in my uh 1533 01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:13,280 i think it's empire the wheel three that 1534 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,839 i get into this one not number two um 1535 01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:17,440 you know i present a string of 1536 01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:20,240 historical events jfk's assassination is 1537 01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,359 one of them the 1986 shuttle disaster is 1538 01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,160 another and then a 911 of course is in 1539 01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:29,359 that same line um and 1540 01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:35,829 james shelby downer and michael hoffman 1541 01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,079 have written that essay king kill 33 in 1542 01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:39,920 which they point out 1543 01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:42,880 all the um the hecate 1544 01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:46,559 uh symbolism and and similar stuff uh 1545 01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:49,119 connected and surrounding the the whole 1546 01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:51,280 jfk assassination milieu 1547 01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:52,880 and then of course 1548 01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:55,599 you know it it had the massive impact on 1549 01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:58,160 the american psyche 1550 01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:00,079 and it was a similar impact that the 1551 01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:01,200 shuttle 1552 01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:04,400 disaster in 1986 had 1553 01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:05,839 and when you think about it the shuttle 1554 01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:09,359 disaster in 86 if it was a an act of 1555 01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:10,799 sabotage 1556 01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:12,960 or what i'm supposing that it is here 1557 01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:15,520 suggesting that it is it was kind of 1558 01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,720 like um the the assassination of jfk all 1559 01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:21,119 over again because he's credited with 1560 01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:23,119 you know really kick-starting 1561 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:26,160 our space program vision 1562 01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,200 and so a lot of people associated you 1563 01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:31,119 know even after apollo our space program 1564 01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:35,280 with jfk at that time so by attacking us 1565 01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:36,160 where 1566 01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:37,280 you know 1567 01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:40,000 we had a lot of pride our space program 1568 01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:42,319 it was like another little injection of 1569 01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:46,079 the you know the jfk thing on us and um 1570 01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:48,559 and it was that that magical 23 years 1571 01:01:55,030 --> 01:01:49,599 later 1572 01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:55,040 you know you name it and what 1573 01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:56,880 in my analysis that i present in my 1574 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,400 books is that you know this was done 1575 01:02:04,829 --> 01:02:02,400 you know on purpose to 1576 01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:04,839 bring us i think 1577 01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,760 uh where we are today and that is at 1578 01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:10,079 each other's throats um the extremes of 1579 01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,920 the spectrum i mean think about it you 1580 01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,520 can't have a conversation for five 1581 01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,680 minutes with anybody in america that 1582 01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:18,079 politics doesn't enter into it and think 1583 01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,839 about this you know people are deciding 1584 01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:21,440 who they're going to friggin socialize 1585 01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:24,400 with or buy donuts from based on who 1586 01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:26,480 they you know support politically i 1587 01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:27,680 don't know about you guys but that's 1588 01:02:31,030 --> 01:02:28,880 heinous 1589 01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:31,040 that that is it's sick do you know what 1590 01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:32,480 it is walter 1591 01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:34,319 it's just an indication that no matter 1592 01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:35,920 who wins 1593 01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:37,520 half of the country 1594 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,440 is going to uh 1595 01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:41,760 be unhappy 1596 01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:43,440 well let me tell you a statistic here 1597 01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,640 guys 1598 01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:46,720 and you've probably heard this 1599 01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:49,520 more than half of the republicans do not 1600 01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:50,559 believe 1601 01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,359 obama was born in america or is 1602 01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:55,280 qualified to be president 1603 01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:57,200 in fact it doesn't matter as long as his 1604 01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:59,680 mother was a native born american so is 1605 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,520 he wherever he was born it doesn't 1606 01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:03,599 matter you got to ask yourself who does 1607 01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:06,000 these polls you know anytime either side 1608 01:03:09,589 --> 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01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:16,799 paracast community forums at 1722 01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,550 we're not favoring any political 1723 01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:24,239 candidate folks we're getting into i 1724 01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:25,600 guess a little bit of the political 1725 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,920 arena but just briefly on the power cast 1726 01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:30,000 with walter bosley as her guest and a 1727 01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:31,679 surprise guest kind of expected 1728 01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:34,640 momentarily so what's happening here 1729 01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:37,920 is that you have a polarized society 1730 01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,960 where 1731 01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,719 each side believes something pretty 1732 01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:42,640 wacky about the other side 1733 01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:45,600 so the republicans believe that obama is 1734 01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,600 fake that he's really a muslim a secret 1735 01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,600 muslim and that he wasn't born in the 1736 01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:51,199 usa 1737 01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,199 that's the trees that people aren't 1738 01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,120 backing up to see the forest remember in 1739 01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,960 my opinion what we're talking about here 1740 01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:58,799 in general is a result 1741 01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:01,600 of these acts of mass 1742 01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:03,359 psychological magic that has been 1743 01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:06,319 repeatedly done to our our society yeah 1744 01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,480 good point bring it back to the point so 1745 01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:10,319 the point is here is that 1746 01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,640 people believe this nonsense 1747 01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,239 and each side has its own brand of 1748 01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:16,480 nonsense to believe in they believe this 1749 01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:18,799 because they've been brainwashed by the 1750 01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:21,440 media what 1751 01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:23,120 that's part of it they get brainwashed 1752 01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,920 by the media they get brainwashed by 1753 01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:28,319 their peers who you know here's here's 1754 01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:29,199 the thing 1755 01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,359 a lot of people really 1756 01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,920 cling to the whole group mentality they 1757 01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:35,440 got to be part of the group they got to 1758 01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,040 be accepted in a group okay and so if if 1759 01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:41,440 the the leader the natural leader of 1760 01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,239 that particular social group you know if 1761 01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:45,839 they think something if they have an 1762 01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:49,679 opinion all the little followers will 1763 01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:51,920 agree with that opinion just to agree 1764 01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:55,600 with it and um it becomes unfortunately 1765 01:10:01,750 --> 01:09:58,719 a conventional wisdom or an a you know 1766 01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:01,760 an alleged just an accepted fact when 1767 01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:05,199 actually if you look closer it's just an 1768 01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,480 opinion or it's just a you know a crazy 1769 01:10:14,470 --> 01:10:10,480 conclusion 1770 01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:14,480 it's just crazy nonsense that 1771 01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:16,960 you know uh people just want to believe 1772 01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:19,199 in because it's emotion based and it 1773 01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,800 makes them feel good 1774 01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:22,320 to just 1775 01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:25,520 retreat into an attitude as opposed to 1776 01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,000 maybe actually look at the facts 1777 01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:30,400 and the other unfortunate thing is when 1778 01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:33,360 you do look at the facts and you find 1779 01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:35,760 you know facts that support you know 1780 01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,560 maybe some negative truths about whoever 1781 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,199 it is they favor they don't want to hear 1782 01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:42,640 that yeah 1783 01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:45,920 for instance for instance all this uh 1784 01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,080 last you know week or two 1785 01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:50,880 we've been seeing all this very uh 1786 01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:53,120 interesting speculation 1787 01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:55,120 about hillary clinton's health 1788 01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:57,440 and the fact that she's been going into 1789 01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,880 these weird freeze-ups these uh 1790 01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:02,159 you know 1791 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,000 these like kind of weird facial uh 1792 01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:09,120 reactions to events um around her like 1793 01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:12,320 when they drop the balloons that crazy 1794 01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:14,719 wide-eyed you know open mouth look that 1795 01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,199 she had and waving her head around and 1796 01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,840 having a hard time getting upstairs 1797 01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,719 having a doctor a neurologist standing 1798 01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:24,960 next to her with one of these inject 1799 01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:26,400 through the clothing 1800 01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:28,640 injectors and and some pretty 1801 01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:30,239 interesting stuff i mean we're looking 1802 01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:30,960 at 1803 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:35,120 a thread from being 1804 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:36,640 you know really 1805 01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:39,760 going into some serious uh criminal 1806 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,560 proceedings uh for some of the very 1807 01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:44,560 nefarious dealings okay we're now 1808 01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:46,880 looking at the partisan viewpoint here 1809 01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:48,800 about that which is that 1810 01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:51,040 what sean hannity says on fox news is 1811 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:54,000 that hillary has a serious illness well 1812 01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:54,880 stop 1813 01:12:00,390 --> 01:11:58,239 that's not a partisan viewpoint he's 1814 01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:00,400 he's telling things that are actual 1815 01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:03,280 observable facts and it gets called 1816 01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:05,679 partisan because it's inconvenient to 1817 01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:13,110 those on the other side will say 1818 01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:14,960 we'll look at the business record of 1819 01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:17,600 donald trump six bankruptcies hundreds 1820 01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:19,760 of thousands of people being ripped off 1821 01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:22,560 by him calling for better trade policies 1822 01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:24,080 and all his merchandise is built 1823 01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:26,880 overseas okay well this is my opinion 1824 01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:28,719 and nobody's saying that that those 1825 01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:31,679 aren't facts either um but it's just 1826 01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:34,400 interesting how one particular side when 1827 01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:36,159 you point out the facts about that 1828 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,040 individual you get a hemon hawing and 1829 01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,000 and a big you know ironically a big wall 1830 01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,560 put in front of you and uh what is the 1831 01:12:48,310 --> 01:12:46,000 what is it there are those of us who are 1832 01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,320 outside the whole thing that are just 1833 01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,440 tired of both sides doing that stuff 1834 01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,760 the bottom line the ups the upshot of 1835 01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:56,719 all of this is that we have the two two 1836 01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:58,480 of the most tarnished candidates in 1837 01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:59,600 history 1838 01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,600 individually let's say only one was 1839 01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:03,760 running against you know your regular 1840 01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:06,239 rank and file republican or democrat we 1841 01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,920 have two of the most tarnished 1842 01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:09,679 candidates ever 1843 01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:12,800 both in the same election and there's a 1844 01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:15,440 there's an outside possibility that both 1845 01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:18,080 of them might be taken down 1846 01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:21,280 now what would happen if that happened 1847 01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:23,440 well because of who's 1848 01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,600 president and who is attorney general 1849 01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:27,120 who appointed her 1850 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:28,800 i don't expect her to be taken down 1851 01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:31,280 unless she does something so overt or 1852 01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:32,960 her illness if 1853 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:35,600 it is as bad as some people might think 1854 01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:38,320 if her illness takes her down 1855 01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:40,480 i don't think it's gonna happen now on 1856 01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:42,239 the other side 1857 01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:44,000 they have just an equal problem too 1858 01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,000 because if they try to take down trump 1859 01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,199 and prevent him from completing the 1860 01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:51,199 campaign 1861 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:53,360 there are over 13 million people out 1862 01:13:58,830 --> 01:13:56,400 there who voted for him over 16 other 1863 01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:58,840 candidates and it's going to be a 1864 01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,080 bloodbath his own party is trying to 1865 01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,400 take him down right 1866 01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:07,040 yeah exactly yeah you know mitt and all 1867 01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:10,960 these other guys you know uh but uh 1868 01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,840 you know as far as the bloodbath goes 1869 01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:15,120 you know there's 1870 01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:17,520 just as much hostile aggression on the 1871 01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:20,159 the opposite side you know among their 1872 01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:22,239 ranks and and my point is let's set all 1873 01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:25,040 the politics the partisan stuff aside 1874 01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,719 that right there is the heart of what's 1875 01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:28,560 going on here 1876 01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:31,760 let's see is they want the people in 1877 01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:35,040 this constant state of uh opposition and 1878 01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:36,560 aggression 1879 01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:40,400 they want the people to be distracted 1880 01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:46,470 who's they 1881 01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:49,920 they um the people who i think um were 1882 01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:52,159 behind things like the jfk assassination 1883 01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:54,880 in 911 i associate them with this 1884 01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:58,719 mysterious nimsa these globalists 1885 01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:00,719 it's the globalists 1886 01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:02,159 who are behind 1887 01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:05,280 this stuff okay okay are the globalists 1888 01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:08,320 the breakaway civilization 1889 01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:13,520 called nimza this is my opinion now from 1890 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:16,480 my analysis the breakaway 1891 01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:19,760 civilization identified as nimza 1892 01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:23,040 is yes the breakaway involved in this 1893 01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,910 the breakaway that is meddling the 1894 01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:31,440 breakaway that even though their 1895 01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,640 breakaway they're not detached from our 1896 01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:36,400 world entirely and they basically want 1897 01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:38,480 to control it and run it this is the 1898 01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,080 same breakaway that was behind the rise 1899 01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:42,960 of the nazis this is why the modern nazi 1900 01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,760 international as joseph farrell calls it 1901 01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,360 in my opinion is 1902 01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:48,960 they are a 1903 01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:53,360 a a deputy of an arm of the nimza 1904 01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,719 the nimza is behind them and the nazi 1905 01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:58,800 international you know they're 1906 01:16:04,149 --> 01:16:01,520 they're behind the uh globalists because 1907 01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:04,159 it's just that age-old vision of you 1908 01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:06,239 know one group wanting to rule the whole 1909 01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:08,000 world that'll never go away there will 1910 01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,520 always be that 1911 01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,040 that's why it's up to the rest of us who 1912 01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,000 are opposed to that to always oppose it 1913 01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:16,640 well two billion that will go on forever 1914 01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:18,159 two billion chinese are gonna have 1915 01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:20,400 something to say about all this well 1916 01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,960 they have their exactly i mean look at 1917 01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:24,560 these military islands that they're 1918 01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:25,920 building throughout the pacific look 1919 01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:27,679 what they're doing they just unveiled a 1920 01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:32,480 1 320 ton statue of the god of war 1921 01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:35,440 hey we're going to talk about thor 1922 01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:36,640 or whatever 1923 01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,440 in a moment we've got walter bosley with 1924 01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:41,760 the big hammer from thor and gene and 1925 01:16:53,229 --> 01:16:52,310 thank you for listening to gcn 1926 01:16:57,510 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spectacularly public way to 2039 01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,560 serve the purpose of this this shock 2040 01:21:50,630 --> 01:21:48,320 magic to the psyche of the american 2041 01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:50,640 public see they needed particularly 2042 01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,920 after world war ii they needed to break 2043 01:22:09,030 --> 01:21:54,960 the 2044 01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:09,040 into our government and you know not 2045 01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:10,639 that everybody was wonderful and perfect 2046 01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:13,679 before that but you know we're 2047 01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,960 we're talking about the era they're 2048 01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,960 working with that was their particular 2049 01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,679 method you know um serving that 2050 01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:21,040 objective 2051 01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,560 then they gave us the beatles to make 2052 01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:24,560 everything seem all right 2053 01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:27,040 that's right that's right the beatles 2054 01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:30,239 and then happy days and then you know 2055 01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:32,320 you name it you know through the decades 2056 01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:38,629 what a mess this world is 2057 01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:41,120 by design it's supposed to be that way 2058 01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:42,719 the nature of it we're never going to 2059 01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:45,120 change the nature of our reality there's 2060 01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:47,199 always going to be conflict because that 2061 01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:50,880 is the stage upon which we we test human 2062 01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:53,520 character we see who emerges to not 2063 01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:56,639 tolerate the the bad stuff you know we 2064 01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:57,360 see 2065 01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:03,189 this is what it's all about i think is 2066 01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:06,000 to test our character well not only that 2067 01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,000 but people in fear and turmoil tend to 2068 01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,080 be easily controlled 2069 01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:12,480 yeah oh well yeah and that's one of the 2070 01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:15,600 tactics of the people who buy off on the 2071 01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:17,679 you know this one world thing is a good 2072 01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:20,239 idea you know sacrifice yourself 2073 01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:21,760 individuals for the good of the 2074 01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:22,880 collective 2075 01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:23,679 um 2076 01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:24,639 you know 2077 01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:27,679 i'm one of those who i see the inherent 2078 01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,560 evil and wrongness in that idea the 2079 01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:32,800 collective hive so i you know as long as 2080 01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,920 i live and breathe i'll oppose it and um 2081 01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,159 you know there's those who really really 2082 01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:40,560 think it's a it's a great idea usually 2083 01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:42,000 history shows that they think it's a 2084 01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:44,480 great idea until you know they actually 2085 01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:46,320 experience it and then they don't think 2086 01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:49,360 it's such a great idea anymore but um 2087 01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:50,719 usually yeah i mean no wonder the 2088 01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:52,719 physics community is trying to 2089 01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:55,120 create uh doorways into other dimensions 2090 01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:56,560 in switzerland to try to get the hell 2091 01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:58,560 off this planet well i'll tell you what 2092 01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,560 sign me up sign me up 2093 01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:02,560 that's why i'm a fan of you know the 2094 01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:04,159 other breakaway that i refer to as the 2095 01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:07,520 1903. i think they truly broke away and 2096 01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,280 people say well what would they help us 2097 01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:11,600 you know we'll help you damn self first 2098 01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:13,760 you know they broke away they got fed up 2099 01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:15,840 this is my opinion this is my theory you 2100 01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:17,520 know they got fed up and they said screw 2101 01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,040 you we're going somewhere else and they 2102 01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:20,960 went somewhere else and you know 2103 01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,679 honestly um call it cynicism or whatever 2104 01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:25,920 at this point in my life i don't blame 2105 01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:28,000 them it sounds kind of like rats and 2106 01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:29,840 sinking ships and 2107 01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:32,320 well i don't see them as rats i 2108 01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:33,040 i 2109 01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:48,159 three but 2110 01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:50,800 you know they saw a little over 100 2111 01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:51,840 years ago 2112 01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:54,560 you know the direction things were going 2113 01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:57,040 and you know they they took their shot 2114 01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,480 they took their chance 2115 01:25:02,790 --> 01:25:00,639 and um i mean i get into the details in 2116 01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,800 that and people can take it or leave it 2117 01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,320 i mean there's those who'd prefer to 2118 01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:06,000 leave it um 2119 01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,840 but you know that's my position on it 2120 01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:09,679 and you know if you're setting aside 2121 01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:10,960 whether they did this or whatever you're 2122 01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:12,880 just talking about the the whatever the 2123 01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,760 ethics or the philosophy of it i i have 2124 01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,080 great admiration for them because i'd 2125 01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:20,320 like to do the same thing if i could i'd 2126 01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,880 say screw all of you i'm i'm out of here 2127 01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:24,400 if if i could 2128 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:26,080 because it's nonsense it's gotten to the 2129 01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,280 point where 2130 01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:29,520 you know everybody's just so wrapped up 2131 01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,480 in the 2132 01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:32,320 every little detail and they're not 2133 01:25:36,149 --> 01:25:34,239 being able to see the forest for all the 2134 01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:36,159 trees that they're clinging to 2135 01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,320 you know and that's not just in politics 2136 01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:40,560 it's it's in everything and they don't 2137 01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:43,760 see that this is part of that unsettled 2138 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:45,920 chaotic state that their psyches have 2139 01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,560 been put into to keep them from thinking 2140 01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:50,800 clearly and objectively 2141 01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:54,000 and you know it's very frustrating you 2142 01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:55,199 know 2143 01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:58,000 to sit and watch this because 2144 01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,400 you know you're just watching 2145 01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:02,880 the tactic of the guys who want to tear 2146 01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:05,840 it all apart and and create a society 2147 01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:07,600 that's more easily controllable you're 2148 01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:09,679 watching them succeed the longer this 2149 01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:12,639 goes on the last thing they want 2150 01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,320 is for 2151 01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:16,239 here's the last thing i want the last 2152 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:18,159 thing they want is the you know the 2153 01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:19,600 group on the right and the group on the 2154 01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,639 left to kind of stop bickering and say 2155 01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:24,639 hey wait a minute we got more in common 2156 01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,320 with each other than we do with these 2157 01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:28,320 guys who are running everything 2158 01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,000 they don't want that they're scared to 2159 01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:32,800 death of that because once that happens 2160 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,280 then they're really under the spotlight 2161 01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:37,840 and possibly in trouble so they keep us 2162 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,320 slow heads will roll 2163 01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:42,239 yeah you know and i'm not the first and 2164 01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:44,960 only guy to say this i just it's i do i 2165 01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:47,280 do see this and um 2166 01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:50,000 you know yeah i have my specific values 2167 01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,239 i have my specific desires that i'd like 2168 01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:54,960 to see but i'm also practical you know 2169 01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:57,360 i'm able to live next door you know to 2170 01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:59,120 the guys who might not agree with me on 2171 01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:00,880 every little point because 2172 01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:03,600 basically we agree that you know basic 2173 01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:05,120 human stuff we want to live in a nice 2174 01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:08,320 neighborhood we we want to prosper um 2175 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,480 you know we we want to be able to feel 2176 01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,880 like we've got a shot at you know fairly 2177 01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:15,120 uh taking care of our own and maybe 2178 01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:17,360 getting somewhere in life 2179 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,679 and uh you know we want to be 2180 01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,080 basically able to basically able to live 2181 01:27:25,669 --> 01:27:23,920 you know free where 2182 01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:25,679 you know um 2183 01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:27,360 and uh 2184 01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:29,440 you know it doesn't matter if the per 2185 01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:31,040 the you know the person's in this party 2186 01:27:34,709 --> 01:27:32,639 or that party because we we have that 2187 01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:34,719 basic idea well right now 2188 01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:36,800 um they're trying to you know drive a 2189 01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,360 wedge in between people like that by 2190 01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:41,360 having everybody the first criteria like 2191 01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:43,120 i said earlier you know i'm not going to 2192 01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:44,800 buy donuts from that guy because he's 2193 01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:47,040 this party or i'm not gonna you know 2194 01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,639 hang out with that person that i've 2195 01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:50,800 known for 25 years because all of a 2196 01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,760 sudden you know they like a presidential 2197 01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,000 candidate that i don't i mean come on 2198 01:28:00,550 --> 01:27:58,560 this is insane but people are doing it 2199 01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:00,560 people are doing it you know here's the 2200 01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:03,760 thing if if i based whether i agreed 2201 01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,320 with actors in hollywood politically or 2202 01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:08,719 not on whether i see movies i'd never 2203 01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:10,800 watch movies again 2204 01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,440 because i think you know politically 2205 01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:15,679 90 of those people are idiots i'm not 2206 01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:17,360 going to take my political lead from you 2207 01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:18,639 know a bunch of actors just because 2208 01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:21,280 they're famous you know just the heck 2209 01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:27,830 let's 2210 01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:30,400 make my day 2211 01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,679 you know um but uh you don't care then 2212 01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:36,080 if an actor talks to an empty chair on 2213 01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:37,120 tv 2214 01:28:44,070 --> 01:28:40,639 but he's a great actor a great screen 2215 01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:44,080 or hold on or or some guy who believes 2216 01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:45,920 in global warming and all this stuff 2217 01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:47,760 goes on and on and on about it while 2218 01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:49,440 flying around a jet around the world 2219 01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:51,679 leaving i mean there's both sides here 2220 01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:54,080 gene on this okay there's 2221 01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,320 you know the whack-a-doodles on the left 2222 01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,560 in hollywood who think all this 2223 01:29:01,910 --> 01:29:00,719 ridiculous stuff i mean 2224 01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:01,920 some of them are just some of the 2225 01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,920 greatest actors and i love their movies 2226 01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:05,760 and stuff but you know personally their 2227 01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:08,000 opinions i think are hogwash well you 2228 01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:09,920 don't have to listen to their opinions 2229 01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:12,560 and that's the thing we have all these 2230 01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:14,719 terrific performers and they have 2231 01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,239 different levels of opinions some of 2232 01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:18,639 which are wacky some of which are less 2233 01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:19,520 so 2234 01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:23,760 playing a role 2235 01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:25,040 it doesn't matter if that actor is gay 2236 01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:26,159 or straight 2237 01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:28,880 it doesn't matter if he or she is 2238 01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:31,920 conservative liberal or some kind of 2239 01:29:35,910 --> 01:29:32,960 unknown 2240 01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:35,920 political viewpoint you don't care about 2241 01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:37,440 you don't care if they're communicating 2242 01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:39,920 or channeling with beings from zeta 2243 01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,030 what difference does it make 2244 01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,800 if you're watching a movie you paid to 2245 01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:49,120 see a movie and you know they're awesome 2246 01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,400 in that movie yeah i don't care what 2247 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:53,120 they think personally you know at all 2248 01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:56,320 i'm there to see them do what they do 2249 01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:58,000 yeah i don't care what they think i 2250 01:30:01,510 --> 01:30:00,239 ought to do with my money um you know 2251 01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,520 they can just 2252 01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:03,360 keep that to themselves 2253 01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:05,120 um 2254 01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:08,080 so 2255 01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,080 it doesn't matter then 2256 01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:12,000 what their beliefs are but certainly we 2257 01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:14,320 have freedom of speech in america they 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future 2386 01:35:18,130 --> 01:35:12,159 and you are listening to the paracast 2387 01:35:18,140 --> 01:35:22,950 [Music] 2388 01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:25,030 so this is the whack job show sometimes 2389 01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:26,639 called the power cast 2390 01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:29,280 all right so the feeling here walter 2391 01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:31,280 bosley is that all this craziness going 2392 01:35:35,030 --> 01:35:33,600 on we're trying to be equal opportunity 2393 01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:35,040 offenders here 2394 01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:37,600 so we'll offend both sides or neither 2395 01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,840 there has to be an endgame is that mean 2396 01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:41,520 that society is going to come falling 2397 01:35:45,669 --> 01:35:44,320 apart in the next few years what 2398 01:35:48,149 --> 01:35:45,679 they 2399 01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:48,159 honestly what it is the end game is 2400 01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:51,760 there's people that that don't like 2401 01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:54,000 they don't like how we do things in 2402 01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:55,920 america they haven't liked it and 2403 01:36:00,950 --> 01:35:58,080 they've needed to bring us down 2404 01:36:01,990 --> 01:36:00,960 and so the end game is to finally bring 2405 01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,000 us down 2406 01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:04,080 to make us conquerable and i mean 2407 01:36:08,709 --> 01:36:05,920 literally conquerable 2408 01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:08,719 by invasion whatever you want to call it 2409 01:36:13,669 --> 01:36:11,679 okay they're trying to break our will 2410 01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:13,679 they're trying to break our spirit so 2411 01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:16,320 that we won't resist or fight 2412 01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,320 you know something overt 2413 01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:20,159 that's what they're trying to do now 2414 01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:22,800 whether that's another country or it's 2415 01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:25,760 you know a private organization or a 2416 01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:27,840 philosophical organization you know you 2417 01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:29,840 name it i think it's a combination of 2418 01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:32,719 all of that um and i think that's the 2419 01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:34,960 end game the end game is to 2420 01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:37,280 bring us down to congress 2421 01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:39,199 where do the ufos 2422 01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:40,639 enter into this 2423 01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,440 well here's the thing um a lot of the 2424 01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:45,520 ufo activity and i said this before 2425 01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:47,280 elsewhere for quite a while a lot of the 2426 01:36:52,310 --> 01:36:49,199 ufo activity people are seeing is 2427 01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,320 actually advanced military technology 2428 01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:55,199 and then of course there's the breakaway 2429 01:37:01,590 --> 01:36:58,560 issue the the breakaway technology and 2430 01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:01,600 um i think the ufo thing is mostly being 2431 01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:04,000 used against us they're convincing a lot 2432 01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:05,440 of people and they have a lot of people 2433 01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:07,360 convinced that ninety percent of it are 2434 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:09,600 these et's and even worse that they 2435 01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:11,760 assume it's benevolent et's because 2436 01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:13,520 that's going to be used against us you 2437 01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:16,239 know they they want to convince us of 2438 01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:19,679 this bogus et invasion thing 2439 01:37:24,149 --> 01:37:21,679 that's where i'm at now i'm not saying 2440 01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,159 anywhere in there that e.t doesn't exist 2441 01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:26,880 of course i think et exists out there 2442 01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:29,199 but i think what's going on here 2443 01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:31,280 you know as far as 2444 01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:34,480 all this ufo stuff and is greatly a huge 2445 01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:35,920 manipulation 2446 01:37:41,030 --> 01:37:38,880 to serve the globalist 2447 01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:41,040 idea okay 2448 01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:43,360 that's what i think so this is something 2449 01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:44,239 that's 2450 01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:46,880 being created by them to divert our 2451 01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:48,960 attention so when people say they're 2452 01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,480 abducted by ufo people 2453 01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:54,480 that's some kind of misdirection maybe 2454 01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:56,800 it's sleep paralysis maybe it's drug 2455 01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:58,880 induced by some well i think it might 2456 01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,960 even be uh you know you got to consider 2457 01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,880 that it's abductions but it's a very 2458 01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:04,800 earthly organization doing it 2459 01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,560 hallucinations that are drug induced 2460 01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:08,719 during the process so that they come 2461 01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:11,440 away with these wild stories that it'll 2462 01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:13,280 be really hard for most people to 2463 01:38:18,070 --> 01:38:15,520 believe and accept so that it's easier 2464 01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:18,080 they're hiding under the cover of the 2465 01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,040 the fantasy and hallucinations you know 2466 01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:23,119 the people who are the abductors 2467 01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:25,280 yeah i think that's what's going on 2468 01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,600 oh boy we're in really deep trouble here 2469 01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:29,280 aren't we the same thing i guess would 2470 01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,520 be true when people think they're in 2471 01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:33,440 touch with star beings from zeta 2472 01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,320 reticuli really hot star beings 2473 01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:38,400 um it's it's 2474 01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:40,960 it's more likely that there's some 2475 01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,080 deception going on there yeah not that a 2476 01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:46,159 real contact with really tease doesn't 2477 01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:48,480 happen i'm just saying there's 2478 01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:50,320 probably when you look here's the thing 2479 01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:52,320 when you look at it closely and you give 2480 01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:54,080 it an honest look the whole ufo 2481 01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:55,199 phenomenon 2482 01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:56,480 all the things related to it when you 2483 01:39:00,870 --> 01:38:59,600 give it a close look what you find 2484 01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:00,880 is that 2485 01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:03,040 there's a deception going on 2486 01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:05,920 or you find that there's something more 2487 01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:09,119 along the lines of the the trickster and 2488 01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:11,040 the hidden others 2489 01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:14,400 going on um you know uh look at you go 2490 01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:16,719 back and review you know jacques vale's 2491 01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:17,600 stuff 2492 01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,000 you know he's on the right track i think 2493 01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:22,239 there's there's there's something going 2494 01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:25,360 on here that gets rejected in favor of 2495 01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:27,600 the classic et thing 2496 01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,480 um something equally amazing 2497 01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:32,480 but also at the same time there's yeah a 2498 01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:34,960 big deception thing going on yeah 2499 01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,520 but the et thing is popular 2500 01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:39,280 i was noticing here just one question 2501 01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:41,600 from one of our listeners in the forums 2502 01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:42,800 i'm going to ask the one thing from 2503 01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:44,480 techno mage and i know chris normally 2504 01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:46,400 asks questions but i just want to turn 2505 01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:48,480 things around would any of the known 2506 01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,000 public elites be candidates as members 2507 01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,719 of either organization like people like 2508 01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:56,639 soros and the rockefellers and 2509 01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:59,760 brzezinski and kissinger and all that so 2510 01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:01,040 one of these candidates like a 2511 01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:03,440 manchurian candidate who represents 2512 01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,960 these other interests 2513 01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:06,320 okay wait a minute you went from one 2514 01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:07,360 thing 2515 01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:09,280 to the manchurian candidate well i'm 2516 01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,159 saying that one of these elites may be 2517 01:40:16,629 --> 01:40:14,880 members of one of these globalist groups 2518 01:40:18,629 --> 01:40:16,639 and i think that's part of it either 2519 01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:18,639 deliberately or accidentally they're in 2520 01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:21,280 there when i hear people say oh build a 2521 01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:23,440 burger rockefeller saurus blah blah blah 2522 01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:25,520 these are the trees of that the forest 2523 01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:28,400 step back from that in in big picture 2524 01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:29,280 forest 2525 01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:30,400 i see 2526 01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:32,880 nimza behind those kinds of guys like i 2527 01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:34,320 said before 2528 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:36,400 really you're looking at nimza in my 2529 01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,760 opinion 2530 01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:39,600 we have a special guest who's going to 2531 01:40:43,510 --> 01:40:41,679 join us right now 2532 01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:43,520 just out of the blue 2533 01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:47,280 he just beamed in from wherever he was 2534 01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:49,520 using a transporter beam or something 2535 01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:52,480 alejandra rojas how are you my friend 2536 01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:55,040 good skype is updating itself and 2537 01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,960 improving itself and of course when it 2538 01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:59,280 does that it kind of screwed everything 2539 01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,159 up 2540 01:41:04,229 --> 01:41:02,000 well that's what happened to our regular 2541 01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:04,239 guest walter bosley here where his 2542 01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,280 computer 2543 01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:07,119 gave up completely 2544 01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:08,719 oh no 2545 01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:10,639 luckily my computer's good i think 2546 01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:12,639 everything is figured out 2547 01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:15,119 for some reason of course yeah lots of 2548 01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:17,119 skype weirdness but 2549 01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:19,280 it appears to be good now 2550 01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:20,560 yay 2551 01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:22,639 so walter you haven't met alejandro yet 2552 01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:23,760 have you 2553 01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:26,560 no no i have not hello alejandra hello 2554 01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:28,159 walter 2555 01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:28,960 well 2556 01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:32,639 there we go the conversation just died 2557 01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:34,719 i've met alejandro 2558 01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:37,600 yes many many times back all the way 2559 01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:45,030 have got to first meet you in 2560 01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:47,840 the legendary san luis valley i don't 2561 01:41:52,229 --> 01:41:50,000 remember our first meeting but it might 2562 01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:52,239 have been actually in the valley 2563 01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:55,600 i think it was i think i did meet you uh 2564 01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:58,159 once or possibly twice 2565 01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:59,040 well 2566 01:42:02,070 --> 01:42:00,560 i was still back there so this would 2567 01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:02,080 have been uh 2568 01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:06,320 around 2000 2001 i think yeah yep good 2569 01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:08,239 times beautiful out there actually some 2570 01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:10,719 friends of ours mutual friends from the 2571 01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,560 mufon here in arizona went out there not 2572 01:42:19,109 --> 01:42:17,280 too long ago and went to the ufo 2573 01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:19,119 watchtower 2574 01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:20,320 oh yeah 2575 01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:22,719 so they were there for all 2576 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:23,760 along 2577 01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:25,370 the watchtower 2578 01:42:29,030 --> 01:42:27,280 [Laughter] 2579 01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:29,040 exactly 2580 01:42:33,910 --> 01:42:30,800 yeah now i know why your mother was the 2581 01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:33,920 only one that laughed at your jokes 2582 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,000 that was my mother-in-law 2583 01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:38,080 oh your mother-in-law sorry my mother 2584 01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:39,600 never laughed i don't think i never 2585 01:42:46,130 --> 01:42:44,550 i used to say to my mother do you 2586 01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:46,140 remember laughter 2587 01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:48,639 [Laughter] 2588 01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:49,920 really 2589 01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:51,360 how did she like that that probably 2590 01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:53,840 didn't make her laugh yeah and 2591 01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:55,360 she said she remembered it before you 2592 01:42:59,430 --> 01:42:57,760 were born yeah right 2593 01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:59,440 that'd be like a mom thing to say that's 2594 01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:01,920 more like a dad thing to say 2595 01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:04,800 after i was born she remembered nothing 2596 01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,960 um well alejandro you missed out we were 2597 01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:08,719 talking about the aliens coming to solve 2598 01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:11,280 all our political emotional and cultural 2599 01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:12,560 problems 2600 01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:14,639 yeah that'll that'd be nice yeah 2601 01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,760 wouldn't it 2602 01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,000 yeah you know what i 2603 01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:20,080 i had a good friend franklin carter i 2604 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:22,800 don't know if any of you know him 2605 01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,840 um he is from wyoming uh but he used to 2606 01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,080 come to colorado events 2607 01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:30,080 yeah i know him he's the dialogue and uh 2608 01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:33,119 that's how i knew him uh 2609 01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:34,960 yeah yeah he has a company where he does 2610 01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:36,960 kind of animal nutrition and stuff like 2611 01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:39,600 that and he 2612 01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:42,480 used to work on the dew line in the navy 2613 01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:44,960 and he had a sighting 2614 01:43:49,510 --> 01:43:46,719 well he actually used to work on the 2615 01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,520 radar systems and he said his thing was 2616 01:43:53,590 --> 01:43:51,280 they installed these new radars that 2617 01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:53,600 could see really far out they started 2618 01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,440 seeing you know weird things moving in 2619 01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:58,080 the sky unknowns and it was kind of 2620 01:44:01,830 --> 01:44:00,159 funny because they would call him up 2621 01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:01,840 carter come take a look at the radar 2622 01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:03,920 system and he would say it's working 2623 01:44:07,669 --> 01:44:06,159 fine so they used to call them carter's 2624 01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:07,679 contacts because they would call them up 2625 01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:10,480 to look at it finally you know they kept 2626 01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,000 putting in reports that the radar was 2627 01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:14,159 screwed up and he says that instead of 2628 01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:16,159 fixing it they just limited how far out 2629 01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:18,800 the radar could see oh 2630 01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:20,400 is that like putting your head in the 2631 01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:24,000 sand i think yeah exactly and uh i'm 2632 01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:25,760 getting to how it relates to this 2633 01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:27,840 eventually but um just some background 2634 01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:29,360 on franklin because it's an interesting 2635 01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:30,320 story 2636 01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:32,400 later on he asked some of his colleagues 2637 01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:34,800 that had these radars installed on their 2638 01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:36,960 ships and he said well didn't you guys 2639 01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,480 have problems and see these things and 2640 01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:40,560 they said sure and he's like didn't you 2641 01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:42,800 guys report him and they said no there's 2642 01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,239 no way we're going to report that they'd 2643 01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,719 think we're crazy so it was it was kind 2644 01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:48,320 of a funny thing and he did get a lot of 2645 01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:50,239 heck in fact you know he got made fun of 2646 01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:51,760 for carter's 2647 01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:55,040 um contacts but later on in life he does 2648 01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:59,040 lectures he he took over leo sprinkles 2649 01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:01,520 uh conference uh the rocky mountain ufo 2650 01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:02,960 conference or something like that in 2651 01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,600 wyoming while that was happening but he 2652 01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:07,360 used to always say in his lectures you 2653 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,320 know 2654 01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:10,320 if it happens if 2655 01:45:16,310 --> 01:45:13,280 disclosure happens if contact happens 2656 01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:16,320 you know um people get a little really 2657 01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,679 excited about it like it's going to 2658 01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,920 change our worlds but 2659 01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:21,360 we've got to change a little bit right 2660 01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:23,679 now and when we're back we'll have 2661 01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:26,080 alejandra rojas our special drop-in 2662 01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:28,800 guest walter bosley gene and chris it 2663 01:45:37,050 --> 01:45:31,840 just gets more exciting by the moment 2664 01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:39,990 [Music] 2665 01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:43,440 thank you for listening to gcn 2666 01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:44,760 be sure to visit 2667 01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:47,600 gcnlive.com today 2668 01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:49,679 attack of the rockoids has been well 2669 01:45:53,590 --> 01:45:52,000 received by critics and readers 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help our 2713 01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:33,920 patented technology will make the truth 2714 01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,679 about you more visible while pushing 2715 01:47:40,350 --> 01:47:38,080 down unwanted negative content improve 2716 01:47:43,310 --> 01:47:40,360 your google search results call 2717 01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:43,320 reputation.com at 2718 01:47:50,580 --> 01:47:45,760 1-800-831-0-71 for a free consultation 2719 01:47:50,590 --> 01:47:56,470 [Music] 2720 01:48:03,430 --> 01:47:59,750 welcome back to the paracast the gold 2721 01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:03,440 standard of paranormal radio 2722 01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:04,639 and now 2723 01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:13,189 you have this special voice you've been 2724 01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:16,159 hiding from us alejandro 2725 01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:17,679 what is your take because we've been 2726 01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:19,360 talking about wear a cape you wear a 2727 01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:21,760 cake i wanted to finish that what did i 2728 01:48:26,970 --> 01:48:24,159 use that voice when i wear a cape eyes 2729 01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,980 i'm bad man 2730 01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:29,280 [Laughter] 2731 01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,000 that sounds like a geriatric batman no 2732 01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:34,080 offense but i think the role that ben 2733 01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:35,679 affleck is playing is an almost 2734 01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:38,639 geriatric batman in the new movies 2735 01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,080 i haven't even seen it and it's 2736 01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:42,719 surprising it's already out on netflix 2737 01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:45,040 or something streaming or it was a big 2738 01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,480 bomb i guess huh 2739 01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:49,199 it's crazy batman v superman made close 2740 01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:50,000 to 2741 01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,719 900 million dollars but they regarded as 2742 01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:54,159 a bomb because it didn't go over a 2743 01:48:58,470 --> 01:48:55,600 billion dollars and a lot of people 2744 01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:58,480 hated it it's in blu-ray and there's a 2745 01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,400 special edition that adds 30 minutes of 2746 01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:02,560 deleted footage it's one of the 2747 01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:05,280 best-selling blu-rays in recent years 2748 01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:06,719 really wow 2749 01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:13,750 as batman i don't know where we started 2750 01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:15,040 this no we want to get your take 2751 01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:16,719 alejandro because we've talked about it 2752 01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:18,800 quite a bit we've of course mentioned 2753 01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:21,199 this with richard dolan 2754 01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:23,040 and joseph farrell and our guest here 2755 01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,360 walter bosley about breakaway 2756 01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:27,360 civilizations one or more 2757 01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:30,880 that may be in control of things 2758 01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,040 so what is your take on that i think 2759 01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:35,520 it's a really interesting 2760 01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:38,239 thought i think it's fun to speculate 2761 01:49:42,149 --> 01:49:39,119 about 2762 01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:42,159 i hear it's a big 2763 01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:44,320 you're hearing a big butt and not that 2764 01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:47,040 kind of big butt folks no not the kind 2765 01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:49,920 that sir makes a lot raps about but 2766 01:49:55,430 --> 01:49:52,239 there's absolutely no evidence and i 2767 01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:55,440 don't see it at all i mean this is what 2768 01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:57,520 the problem is with conspiracy theories 2769 01:50:01,510 --> 01:49:59,440 and a lot of these conspiracy theories a 2770 01:50:04,070 --> 01:50:01,520 lot of the people that hold most tightly 2771 01:50:07,590 --> 01:50:04,080 to conspiracy theories have done little 2772 01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:07,600 to no outreach to actually get to know 2773 01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:10,320 what these systems actually work like to 2774 01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:11,760 talk to the people who work in those 2775 01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:14,000 systems visit the people who work in 2776 01:50:19,590 --> 01:50:16,880 there to figure out how these things 2777 01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:19,600 actually work so they can see for 2778 01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:22,480 themselves how their conspiracy may work 2779 01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,960 or fit into things and that's what's 2780 01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:27,119 really frustrating because all of these 2781 01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:29,440 people the these people talk about are 2782 01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:31,679 for the most part accessible you can 2783 01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:33,840 find out who the ceos of all the major 2784 01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:35,840 corporations who are working on black 2785 01:50:38,950 --> 01:50:37,199 projects are you can find out who the 2786 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,960 engineers are you can you can find out 2787 01:50:42,149 --> 01:50:40,480 who the journalists are that work for 2788 01:50:44,550 --> 01:50:42,159 the newspapers uh who owns those 2789 01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:44,560 newspapers you can find out information 2790 01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:47,360 about them their backgrounds you know 2791 01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:49,840 when you look into how things really 2792 01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:52,960 work it's it's much much more mundane 2793 01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:55,840 luckily i've done work in politics i've 2794 01:51:00,229 --> 01:50:58,400 i'm in journalism i work with mainstream 2795 01:51:01,669 --> 01:51:00,239 journalists and this is what gets really 2796 01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:01,679 frustrating because part of this 2797 01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:03,360 conspiracy is all about this this 2798 01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,920 control of the media is that i've held 2799 01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:08,159 panels at our conferences with people 2800 01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:10,719 who work in mainstream journalism these 2801 01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:12,719 are people who people typically respect 2802 01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:14,719 people like george knapp 2803 01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:17,520 lee spiegel bryce zabel who's worked in 2804 01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,520 the film industry paul davids who's 2805 01:51:23,109 --> 01:51:20,880 worked in the film industry even though 2806 01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:23,119 he's a conspiratorial it's not around 2807 01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:25,040 the media they've worked in the media 2808 01:51:28,470 --> 01:51:26,400 and they'll tell you there's there's no 2809 01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:28,480 conspiracy there's stupidness there's 2810 01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:31,840 ignorance there's a hesitance to put 2811 01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:34,480 their butt on the line for an issue and 2812 01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:35,360 really 2813 01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:37,440 unless it's pure entertainment or fun 2814 01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:39,440 that's what gets really frustrating is 2815 01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:41,360 you know there's absolutely 2816 01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:44,239 zero evidence for any breakaway society 2817 01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:46,080 it's fun to think about it make a great 2818 01:51:51,189 --> 01:51:48,880 science fiction story 2819 01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:51,199 is a bit extreme i don't i don't think 2820 01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:54,159 so uh what evidence is there you know 2821 01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:55,599 books have been written on this because 2822 01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:57,599 i you know i've i've got two books that 2823 01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:00,159 present evidence on it dolan has 2824 01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:02,400 presented it joseph farrell's presented 2825 01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,239 it you know joseph farrell again he's 2826 01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,560 speculative everything he has is a total 2827 01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:08,800 speculation um 2828 01:52:13,750 --> 01:52:10,880 that is absolutely not true you've just 2829 01:52:15,830 --> 01:52:13,760 said his opinion that's true absolutely 2830 01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:15,840 not true alejandro his books are filled 2831 01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:18,159 with documentation he just strings it 2832 01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:19,920 all together all right 2833 01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:22,159 you just expressed a bunch of opinion as 2834 01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:24,719 if it was fact and that's the problem 2835 01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:25,760 also 2836 01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:28,320 i did not express these as their fact i 2837 01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:31,040 mean i will agree with you 100 those are 2838 01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:33,679 my opinions identify them as such then 2839 01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:35,360 give the listener the opportunity to 2840 01:52:39,189 --> 01:52:36,960 decide whether they want to agree with 2841 01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:39,199 your opinion you shouldn't express the 2842 01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:42,159 opinion as if it's the conventional 2843 01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:44,560 wisdom opinion because it's not there's 2844 01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:46,560 people out there that would completely 2845 01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:49,440 disagree with you well it certainly is 2846 01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:51,920 the conventional wisdom i would say that 2847 01:52:55,750 --> 01:52:53,760 that although it's not the wrong 2848 01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:55,760 question phrase but you know what i mean 2849 01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:57,440 it's no there are other opinions out 2850 01:53:01,189 --> 01:53:00,159 there and at but i mean it's not like 2851 01:53:03,910 --> 01:53:01,199 we're all 2852 01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:03,920 in our conversations prefacing this is 2853 01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,599 only my opinion but 2854 01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,520 yes it's only my opinion 2855 01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:09,679 for my part i'm making the effort even 2856 01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:12,159 more so now maybe than i even used to to 2857 01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:14,080 say hey this is my opinion because i 2858 01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:15,760 understand that 2859 01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:17,679 some of the things i say are 2860 01:53:21,910 --> 01:53:20,159 are my opinion and what is this evidence 2861 01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:21,920 other than i want to know what this 2862 01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:23,679 evidence is i really don't see any 2863 01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,639 evidence for any breakaway society 2864 01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:28,480 okay um 2865 01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:30,639 i presented it in such with the nimsa i 2866 01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:32,719 mean i'm not going to read my books here 2867 01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:36,320 you know in the few minutes we have here 2868 01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:38,639 you know there's the military industrial 2869 01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,360 complex that eisenhower did indeed warn 2870 01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:43,440 about that's not fantasy 2871 01:53:48,550 --> 01:53:45,920 that's not a conspiracy theory 2872 01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,560 you know there's over a century of 2873 01:53:52,629 --> 01:53:50,480 evidence for this it it sounds like what 2874 01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:52,639 you need to do is maybe read up more on 2875 01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:55,920 the subject that rather than you know if 2876 01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:57,679 you're asking where's the evidence that 2877 01:54:02,149 --> 01:53:59,760 tells me you haven't really looked at it 2878 01:54:02,950 --> 01:54:02,159 or you went into it prepared to dismiss 2879 01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,960 it 2880 01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:04,480 well that's not true 2881 01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:06,239 you can say you disagree with the 2882 01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:08,480 evidence that's presented but to say 2883 01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:11,040 where is it you know well that would 2884 01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:13,920 take a couple of whole other shows to go 2885 01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:16,159 through all of that alejandro have you 2886 01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:18,880 um read any of joseph farrell's books i 2887 01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:20,960 have and i've looked into especially 2888 01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:24,800 with the german aspect i've looked a lot 2889 01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:26,639 into all of those things typically i 2890 01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:28,560 went into this thinking that there is 2891 01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:31,760 more to it than i found there was there 2892 01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:33,440 certainly is a military-industrial 2893 01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:35,360 complex there's no bad doubt about that 2894 01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:38,639 there is secrecy and and maybe we're not 2895 01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:40,320 referring to the same thing when we talk 2896 01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,320 about a breakaway society there 2897 01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:44,000 definitely are people 2898 01:54:48,149 --> 01:54:45,360 working in secrecy there are 2899 01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:48,159 corporations uh doing their own thing 2900 01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:51,040 under the veil of secrecy that debatably 2901 01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:52,880 i i and i would argue 2902 01:54:58,709 --> 01:54:55,599 is often undemocratic in that there 2903 01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:58,719 probably there is little oversight um 2904 01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:01,840 from the government but when i think of 2905 01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:04,320 the breakaway society as dolan for 2906 01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:07,360 instance um talks about he talks about 2907 01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:08,480 actual 2908 01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:11,199 like a hidden civilization people 2909 01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:13,920 families a society 2910 01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:16,800 living with access and using on a 2911 01:55:22,790 --> 01:55:20,880 regular basis technologies that are 2912 01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:22,800 that the regular public does not have 2913 01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:24,639 access to 2914 01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:26,800 um and that is hidden 2915 01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:28,159 from 2916 01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:31,040 regular society that's the sort of thing 2917 01:55:34,709 --> 01:55:33,440 that i'm talking about that i don't see 2918 01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:34,719 uh 2919 01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:36,719 i mean there's certainly fair enough if 2920 01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:39,040 you just disagree with that aspect of it 2921 01:55:42,790 --> 01:55:40,639 and i would venture to say that i 2922 01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:42,800 probably disagree with certain degrees 2923 01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:45,760 of what dolan has said um i'm by no 2924 01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:49,520 means a dolan disciple um but uh really 2925 01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,440 when you get down to it it's just it's 2926 01:55:55,669 --> 01:55:52,960 it's your opinion that these things 2927 01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:55,679 can't be so it's not that it is clearly 2928 01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:58,960 demonstrable that it's not so and and as 2929 01:56:05,189 --> 01:56:01,119 long as there's the 2930 01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:05,199 that percentage of of uh possibility 2931 01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:06,960 that it could be so 2932 01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:08,080 um 2933 01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:10,159 you know i i think that flavors the 2934 01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,400 evidence that's presented out there 2935 01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,880 uh enough to uh be considered i mean 2936 01:56:18,629 --> 01:56:17,040 just the financial stuff alone you have 2937 01:56:21,669 --> 01:56:18,639 someone like catherine austin fitz who 2938 01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:21,679 was an under secretary for her hud 2939 01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:23,760 and she wasn't a believer in any of this 2940 01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:25,679 stuff until she started looking at you 2941 01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:27,840 know wow look at the funny weird stuff 2942 01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:29,920 that's going on with this money 2943 01:56:33,669 --> 01:56:32,320 and she came to the conclusion on her 2944 01:56:34,629 --> 01:56:33,679 own that 2945 01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:34,639 you know 2946 01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:36,159 long story short she came to the 2947 01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:38,159 breakaway thing 2948 01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:40,239 based on her experience as an under 2949 01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:42,480 secretary of hud which carries with it 2950 01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:44,400 as much credential as any of the 2951 01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:45,920 journalists you mentioned i would say 2952 01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:46,960 more so 2953 01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:49,440 in some of their cases and you know she 2954 01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:51,840 has come to this uh conclusion that 2955 01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,760 there's a breakaway thing going on here 2956 01:56:56,470 --> 01:56:55,679 essentially a breakaway thing going on 2957 01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:56,480 here 2958 01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:59,040 um which again the finer points like in 2959 01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:01,040 dolan's definition might be 2960 01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:03,679 something she would disagree with but uh 2961 01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:06,080 you know there there are serious people 2962 01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:08,320 professionals respected in their fields 2963 01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:09,199 that 2964 01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:11,520 you know would disagree with you um as 2965 01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:14,639 much as there are who would agree and 2966 01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:17,280 you know i'm just saying that you know 2967 01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:18,159 it's 2968 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:20,080 wiser i think to 2969 01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:21,440 acknowledge 2970 01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:22,960 um 2971 01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:25,360 that well at least a possibility what 2972 01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:28,880 about gary mckinnon's 140 some odd 2973 01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:31,840 off-planet naval officers 2974 01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:32,719 the 2975 01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:35,360 this is what's frustrating 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02:02:15,840 bosley versus 3075 02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:18,159 alejandro rojas alejandra i'm chris 3076 02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:20,560 o'brien i'm taking on chris too here oh 3077 02:02:24,310 --> 02:02:22,400 you are you're not taking me on though i 3078 02:02:25,669 --> 02:02:24,320 don't quite go as far i think i'm a 3079 02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:25,679 little bit more conservative i think 3080 02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:28,480 than than richard and walter but i've 3081 02:02:30,629 --> 02:02:29,760 read enough 3082 02:02:32,709 --> 02:02:30,639 and i've 3083 02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:32,719 researched enough 3084 02:02:36,629 --> 02:02:34,000 to 3085 02:02:38,790 --> 02:02:36,639 have a strong suspicion that 3086 02:02:40,709 --> 02:02:38,800 some of this material is true 3087 02:02:42,070 --> 02:02:40,719 and and that we are 3088 02:02:45,350 --> 02:02:42,080 out of the loop 3089 02:02:48,470 --> 02:02:45,360 with some pretty exotic technologies 3090 02:02:51,189 --> 02:02:48,480 that are being utilized are operational 3091 02:02:53,189 --> 02:02:51,199 that much i can say and when you have 3092 02:02:56,470 --> 02:02:53,199 somebody hacking the pentagon 3093 02:02:59,510 --> 02:02:56,480 and coming up with a list of names of 3094 02:03:01,669 --> 02:02:59,520 allegedly naval naval officers 3095 02:03:04,229 --> 02:03:01,679 allegedly coming up this allegedly yeah 3096 02:03:06,790 --> 02:03:04,239 true true this guy gary mckinnon like 3097 02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:06,800 that that do indicate that we 3098 02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:09,599 we do have something going on 3099 02:03:13,270 --> 02:03:12,159 ben rich's uh comments of course ben 3100 02:03:14,950 --> 02:03:13,280 rich was a 3101 02:03:17,109 --> 02:03:14,960 the founder and head of the skunk works 3102 02:03:19,830 --> 02:03:17,119 the lockheed skunk works uh saying we 3103 02:03:21,430 --> 02:03:19,840 have the technology to take e.t home we 3104 02:03:22,709 --> 02:03:21,440 figured out the missing part of the 3105 02:03:24,310 --> 02:03:22,719 formula 3106 02:03:26,790 --> 02:03:24,320 uh you know 3107 02:03:29,430 --> 02:03:26,800 enigmatic statements like that 3108 02:03:34,109 --> 02:03:32,310 uh who worked at skunk works who was on 3109 02:03:36,550 --> 02:03:34,119 the team that designed the national 3110 02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:36,560 navigation for stealth some of the 3111 02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:38,719 things that i was told by him 3112 02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:41,119 uh would indicate that there is an 3113 02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:42,719 exalted 3114 02:03:48,229 --> 02:03:45,280 level of technology that is very black 3115 02:03:49,510 --> 02:03:48,239 very secret and is not 3116 02:03:56,470 --> 02:03:49,520 in 3117 02:03:58,870 --> 02:03:56,480 now i would agree with a lot of what you 3118 02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:58,880 said however those site 3119 02:04:03,430 --> 02:04:01,119 the references that you make are third 3120 02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:03,440 hand references to things that people 3121 02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:06,239 are just remembering uh from events that 3122 02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:08,560 happened long ago in gary mckinnon's 3123 02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:11,520 case he admits he was drunk and he was 3124 02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:14,480 stoned while he was hacking 3125 02:04:19,669 --> 02:04:16,960 he was using essentially his hacking 3126 02:04:21,270 --> 02:04:19,679 skills amounted to trying to hack into 3127 02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:21,280 computers that had 3128 02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:23,760 the password set as password and user 3129 02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:26,000 said his user 3130 02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:27,520 he says 3131 02:04:31,990 --> 02:04:29,520 out of the couple of things that he saw 3132 02:04:34,629 --> 02:04:32,000 he says he he saw this list of 3133 02:04:37,669 --> 02:04:34,639 non-terrestrial people 3134 02:04:40,070 --> 02:04:37,679 or non-terrestrial officers 3135 02:04:42,950 --> 02:04:40,080 but he has no detail nor did he have the 3136 02:04:45,270 --> 02:04:42,960 foresight to save any of that stuff 3137 02:04:47,109 --> 02:04:45,280 um and then when it comes to the ben 3138 02:04:49,510 --> 02:04:47,119 rich comments 3139 02:04:52,790 --> 02:04:49,520 those are what a couple of people 3140 02:04:55,270 --> 02:04:52,800 remembered ben rich saying but of course 3141 02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:55,280 the nuances of what he said is really 3142 02:04:59,990 --> 02:04:57,199 important for which they'll admit they 3143 02:05:02,629 --> 02:05:00,000 don't know exact word for word what he 3144 02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:02,639 had said whereas friends of ben riches 3145 02:05:07,270 --> 02:05:04,639 talked about him referencing these sort 3146 02:05:08,550 --> 02:05:07,280 of things but not in that same light 3147 02:05:11,430 --> 02:05:08,560 regardless 3148 02:05:14,070 --> 02:05:11,440 possibility the issue with possibility 3149 02:05:16,229 --> 02:05:14,080 is anything is possible these arguments 3150 02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:16,239 that you guys are raising many of these 3151 02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:18,719 for the breakaway society are the same 3152 02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:21,440 sort of things that dr greer who i know 3153 02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:23,840 many of you are not a fan of can use to 3154 02:05:27,589 --> 02:05:25,679 say well it's a possibility you know 3155 02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:27,599 then i'm talking to aliens and that 3156 02:05:32,709 --> 02:05:29,840 we're filming aliens and we're talking 3157 02:05:35,910 --> 02:05:32,719 to to aliens when we go out on our 3158 02:05:38,229 --> 02:05:35,920 outings in fact he has witnesses there 3159 02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:38,239 who say yeah we saw aliens we saw ufos 3160 02:05:43,109 --> 02:05:40,560 we saw alien spacecraft i'm at a 3161 02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:43,119 disadvantage here um alejandra i because 3162 02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:45,119 i never met you where do you come from 3163 02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:47,920 what's your what do you advocate i don't 3164 02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:50,560 advocate i research and write i'm 3165 02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:52,800 honestly asking that not from a hostel i 3166 02:05:57,350 --> 02:05:54,159 just don't know 3167 02:05:59,109 --> 02:05:57,360 no i don't know i know he does that 3168 02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:59,119 trust me and i think you guys could 3169 02:06:03,430 --> 02:06:00,719 agree i'm not the type of guy to get 3170 02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:03,440 real defensive or to 3171 02:06:08,629 --> 02:06:05,760 hold to my opinion that i have the final 3172 02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:08,639 word on things i certainly do not at all 3173 02:06:12,790 --> 02:06:10,960 in fact like i say often i could be 3174 02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:12,800 completely wrong about things it's just 3175 02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,280 that what i have done is i write about 3176 02:06:20,070 --> 02:06:17,760 this stuff on a daily basis like chris 3177 02:06:21,669 --> 02:06:20,080 and others and i've spent a lot of time 3178 02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:21,679 researching all of these different 3179 02:06:26,310 --> 02:06:23,599 things but you come from a skeptic 3180 02:06:28,629 --> 02:06:26,320 viewpoint do you come from a particular 3181 02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:28,639 position on this stuff yourself which 3182 02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:30,639 camp are you in would you say if you had 3183 02:06:35,189 --> 02:06:32,079 the nutshell 3184 02:06:36,790 --> 02:06:35,199 yeah i would say currently and i would 3185 02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:36,800 like to give a little bit of history 3186 02:06:41,589 --> 02:06:39,040 currently i'm in the skeptic camp if 3187 02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:41,599 there's a camp but that's not always the 3188 02:06:45,750 --> 02:06:43,520 case i came from the other side i came 3189 02:06:47,830 --> 02:06:45,760 from the side to look into these things 3190 02:06:50,390 --> 02:06:47,840 as if you know i felt that there was 3191 02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:50,400 more to them i was believing 3192 02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:54,239 the people in this field who hold these 3193 02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:57,199 beliefs and espouse these beliefs 3194 02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:59,520 but when i began to write about these 3195 02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:01,440 things and you know usually some 3196 02:07:06,229 --> 02:07:03,520 journalists and integrity you know 3197 02:07:08,020 --> 02:07:06,239 looking for facts and references i found 3198 02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:08,030 that the references 3199 02:07:13,510 --> 02:07:10,560 [Music] 3200 02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:13,520 was skeptical and so that's that's where 3201 02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:15,840 i come from a lot of us use journalistic 3202 02:07:20,550 --> 02:07:18,239 integrity not all of us but um and i'm 3203 02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:20,560 not saying i don't i know joseph does 3204 02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:23,280 i'm sure dolan tries to well in and i'm 3205 02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:26,000 i'm similar i started out being a little 3206 02:07:31,030 --> 02:07:28,880 bit more open-minded i think 25 years 3207 02:07:33,669 --> 02:07:31,040 ago when i started out in in this field 3208 02:07:36,229 --> 02:07:33,679 actively and as i've gone through these 3209 02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:36,239 years i've become more and more and more 3210 02:07:40,310 --> 02:07:37,520 conservative 3211 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:40,320 more and more of skeptical i think like 3212 02:07:46,069 --> 02:07:42,880 alejandro i try to keep my myself open 3213 02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:46,079 to possibility and i do try to do you 3214 02:07:49,270 --> 02:07:47,920 i've gone through that same thing i 3215 02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:49,280 agree with you i agree with you guys 3216 02:07:52,870 --> 02:07:51,040 there i've become more 3217 02:07:55,109 --> 02:07:52,880 what you just said a little bit more 3218 02:07:57,109 --> 02:07:55,119 what's the word reserved and down to 3219 02:07:59,510 --> 02:07:57,119 earth and some things sure yeah that's 3220 02:08:00,390 --> 02:07:59,520 reasonable like like i'm i'm 3221 02:08:02,870 --> 02:08:00,400 really 3222 02:08:05,669 --> 02:08:02,880 skeptical uh about any 3223 02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:05,679 sort of off-planet intelligences of 3224 02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:08,000 visiting this planet i i really think 3225 02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:09,599 that we're dealing with something that's 3226 02:08:14,310 --> 02:08:11,840 as terrestrial as we are if not more so 3227 02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:14,320 another tenant in the building uh that 3228 02:08:18,229 --> 02:08:16,400 to me would make more sense than 3229 02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:18,239 something off planet for instance and 3230 02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:19,040 yeah 3231 02:08:23,990 --> 02:08:22,000 this realm is a very conservative view 3232 02:08:26,069 --> 02:08:24,000 i'd agree with that 3233 02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:26,079 you see how that conversation died down 3234 02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:28,480 pretty quickly huh well yeah i'd say 3235 02:08:33,109 --> 02:08:31,440 where do we go from here so i mean 3236 02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:33,119 for instance i mean 3237 02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:35,599 i blog for the huffington post i my 3238 02:08:42,069 --> 02:08:39,520 focus is not on the ufo community it's 3239 02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:42,079 on the mainstream and i feel there is a 3240 02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:44,560 lot of really credible great information 3241 02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:46,560 to show that there is a phenomenon and 3242 02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:49,440 there says there's something really here 3243 02:08:54,629 --> 02:08:52,639 if i'm gonna go to the public with 3244 02:08:56,310 --> 02:08:54,639 other types of stories 3245 02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:56,320 i think for credibility's sake i need to 3246 02:09:00,870 --> 02:08:58,560 be able to back that up so 3247 02:09:02,950 --> 02:09:00,880 i am a little harsher on these things 3248 02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:02,960 because i'm looking for the good 3249 02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,480 references um the credible 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--> 02:09:42,880 host of questions so uh yeah there's a 3265 02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:45,199 lot of mystery out there 3266 02:09:49,430 --> 02:09:47,280 um i'm just looking for the real solid 3267 02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:49,440 credible kind of building blocks to take 3268 02:09:54,470 --> 02:09:52,560 us to to the answers that's fair that 3269 02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:54,480 that's totally fair yeah i would agree 3270 02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:57,040 with i wrote a 600 page book that's 3271 02:10:01,669 --> 02:09:59,199 filled with documentation that's filled 3272 02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:01,679 with facts uh that's filled with 3273 02:10:06,390 --> 02:10:03,920 analysis of physical evidence 3274 02:10:08,310 --> 02:10:06,400 that is extremely conservative uh about 3275 02:10:09,910 --> 02:10:08,320 the caterpillation phenomenon 3276 02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:09,920 conservative in the sense that most 3277 02:10:13,270 --> 02:10:11,440 people want to believe that aliens are 3278 02:10:15,189 --> 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amd 3390 02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:34,400 to get your free amd information packet 3391 02:14:39,030 --> 02:14:36,000 contact the foundation fighting 3392 02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:39,040 blindness today at 1 800 blindness 3393 02:14:44,709 --> 02:14:41,920 that's 1 800 blindness join the fight 3394 02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:44,719 against amd because together there is a 3395 02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:53,030 [Music] 3396 02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:54,400 this is jerome sight 3397 02:14:59,590 --> 02:14:56,639 author of the ufo encyclopedia in other 3398 02:15:09,510 --> 02:14:59,600 books you're listening to the peercast 3399 02:15:10,950 --> 02:15:09,520 [Music] 3400 02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:10,960 okay we've got 3401 02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:13,360 gene and chris and walter bosley and 3402 02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:15,119 alejandro rojas for a couple of more 3403 02:15:17,830 --> 02:15:16,880 segments chris you're about to say 3404 02:15:20,709 --> 02:15:17,840 something 3405 02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:20,719 well i just use as an example of taking 3406 02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:23,679 a very measured reserved conservative 3407 02:15:29,669 --> 02:15:26,560 approach uh to something to a subject 3408 02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:29,679 that is just totally overrun 3409 02:15:37,030 --> 02:15:33,679 with um presumption fantasy speculation 3410 02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:37,040 that absolutely it does not bear out 3411 02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:39,679 the data and the facts you know i i do 3412 02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:42,000 consider myself open-minded 3413 02:15:46,470 --> 02:15:43,760 we started out the show today talking 3414 02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:46,480 about the wonderful potential for the 3415 02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:49,280 use of entheagens in paranormal research 3416 02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:50,880 and ufo research 3417 02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:53,599 i'm i'm totally blasted for that on from 3418 02:15:59,189 --> 02:15:56,719 many uh corners how dare you talk about 3419 02:16:01,589 --> 02:15:59,199 taking drugs and combining that with any 3420 02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:01,599 sort of serious research well i think 3421 02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:04,400 that there's a tremendous possibility 3422 02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:06,639 that would not only give us 3423 02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:08,400 the potential to find out more about 3424 02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:10,880 these subjects but also to find out more 3425 02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:12,639 about the very nature of human 3426 02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:15,119 consciousness and how consciousness may 3427 02:16:21,589 --> 02:16:18,000 have a co-creative aspect that ties 3428 02:16:23,990 --> 02:16:21,599 itself into and may even help manifest 3429 02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:24,000 uh experiences that consider paranormal 3430 02:16:27,270 --> 02:16:25,760 so you know 3431 02:16:29,270 --> 02:16:27,280 it's one thing to be conservative and 3432 02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:29,280 stick to the facts and and and really be 3433 02:16:33,589 --> 02:16:31,440 journalistic and and uh you know 3434 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:33,599 healthfully skeptical and it's another 3435 02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:35,760 thing to have your mind closed alejandro 3436 02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:37,359 has always been someone that i've 3437 02:16:41,349 --> 02:16:40,000 considered to have a very open mind 3438 02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:41,359 you know the door is closing a little 3439 02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:43,120 bit as the years go on but still i i 3440 02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:45,439 think alejandro is is 3441 02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,160 has a very uh rational mind 3442 02:16:52,549 --> 02:16:50,319 but there are some people unfortunately 3443 02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:52,559 out there that are so far off into 3444 02:16:57,270 --> 02:16:55,439 kool-aid slurping land and in lala land 3445 02:16:59,910 --> 02:16:57,280 that they buy into anything that comes 3446 02:17:02,070 --> 02:16:59,920 down the pike that happens to conform to 3447 02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:02,080 their foregone conclusions 3448 02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:03,840 and you know what that's true on both 3449 02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:05,439 sides you know what this is 3450 02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:06,479 because what we're seeing is a 3451 02:17:09,910 --> 02:17:07,920 manifestation of what we were talking 3452 02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:09,920 about earlier where you know i was 3453 02:17:14,870 --> 02:17:12,639 saying that our society in general has 3454 02:17:17,669 --> 02:17:14,880 been driven to the extremes us versus 3455 02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:17,679 them and this is a microcosm of that 3456 02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:19,599 you've got the people that are the the 3457 02:17:24,629 --> 02:17:22,000 in the skeptic camp versus the true 3458 02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:24,639 believers right and neither side wants 3459 02:17:31,669 --> 02:17:29,760 to be respectful of um uh the other okay 3460 02:17:34,309 --> 02:17:31,679 rather than the true believers could 3461 02:17:36,950 --> 02:17:34,319 gain a lot from maybe being a little bit 3462 02:17:39,589 --> 02:17:36,960 more open to the skeptical inquiry the 3463 02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,599 skeptics who have quite frankly become 3464 02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:41,519 some of their cases their extreme is no 3465 02:17:46,070 --> 02:17:44,000 better than a religion 3466 02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:46,080 they could learn a lot by being maybe a 3467 02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:47,840 little bit more open to 3468 02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:49,599 you know some of the basics that the 3469 02:17:53,669 --> 02:17:52,240 true believers look at but the thing is 3470 02:17:55,990 --> 02:17:53,679 we're not there 3471 02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:56,000 we got these knee-jerk reactions and 3472 02:18:00,389 --> 02:17:58,319 there are those of us i think all three 3473 02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:00,399 of us here you know all four of us here 3474 02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:03,120 are more in that middle ground you know 3475 02:18:06,790 --> 02:18:04,719 we might express opinions where it's 3476 02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:06,800 like you know oh oh contrary this and 3477 02:18:10,870 --> 02:18:08,880 that but honestly and how we do things i 3478 02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:10,880 know chris you and i 3479 02:18:15,349 --> 02:18:13,760 you know my i think my stuff is a has 3480 02:18:17,589 --> 02:18:15,359 become more and more 3481 02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:17,599 in the direction of alejandro for 3482 02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:19,840 instance than it is true believerism 3483 02:18:24,230 --> 02:18:22,160 that's for sure because i think i put 3484 02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:24,240 off true believers left and right i know 3485 02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:26,559 in the et community and probably getting 3486 02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:28,240 ready to do that with the new book too 3487 02:18:32,549 --> 02:18:30,080 but um 3488 02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:32,559 that's the thing i think skeptic versus 3489 02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:35,040 true believer is defining 3490 02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:37,439 our field that we're in and it shouldn't 3491 02:18:43,030 --> 02:18:40,719 be no i agree i i really think that that 3492 02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:43,040 both sides should line up for a good 3493 02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:44,719 spanking 3494 02:18:48,709 --> 02:18:46,800 that would help that would at least put 3495 02:18:50,549 --> 02:18:48,719 you know at least get them 3496 02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:50,559 it might wake them up 3497 02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:52,000 um yeah 3498 02:18:55,669 --> 02:18:54,559 well the conversations and a lot of 3499 02:18:57,190 --> 02:18:55,679 people i think because of what you're 3500 02:19:00,070 --> 02:18:57,200 talking about a lot of people get 3501 02:19:01,429 --> 02:19:00,080 hesitant to get into conversation around 3502 02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:01,439 this because they they believe it's 3503 02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:03,679 going to start into a major battle or a 3504 02:19:07,910 --> 02:19:05,599 fight but i think it's healthy and 3505 02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:07,920 important so for instance if chris 3506 02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,399 disagrees with me or gene 3507 02:19:14,389 --> 02:19:12,800 or a number other of colleagues that i i 3508 02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:14,399 greatly respect 3509 02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:16,960 it's great because i love to then get in 3510 02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:18,960 that conversation because i want to be 3511 02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:21,599 wrong i mean i want 3512 02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:24,639 them to say hey look at this have you 3513 02:19:29,669 --> 02:19:27,040 seen this have you seen that i want my 3514 02:19:32,150 --> 02:19:29,679 eyes to be opened and you know this 3515 02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:32,160 dialogue even even as i discuss this is 3516 02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:34,479 like an internal battle that goes inside 3517 02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,359 of me uh where i want to find this stuff 3518 02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:39,599 and it's a lot of fun because typically 3519 02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:42,000 in conversations with colleagues that i 3520 02:19:46,709 --> 02:19:44,399 really respect and have a strong reason 3521 02:19:48,150 --> 02:19:46,719 for feeling strongly about something 3522 02:19:51,030 --> 02:19:48,160 they do have something that is 3523 02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:51,040 eye-opening for me and then i learn and 3524 02:19:56,790 --> 02:19:53,520 i have another piece of the puzzle 3525 02:20:00,070 --> 02:19:56,800 it's a process yeah and true believers 3526 02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:00,080 you know i i totally agree could learn a 3527 02:20:05,429 --> 02:20:04,160 lot by coming down out of the clouds and 3528 02:20:07,990 --> 02:20:05,439 applying 3529 02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:08,000 a little bit more critical skeptical 3530 02:20:11,590 --> 02:20:09,439 analysis of what that we've heard this 3531 02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:11,600 before i'm not the first to say this to 3532 02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:13,520 what they look at i know how that sounds 3533 02:20:18,550 --> 02:20:15,600 to some people coming from me 3534 02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,560 the nimza guy the i i know how that 3535 02:20:24,309 --> 02:20:21,040 sounds i still stand by my 3536 02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:24,319 stuff but i admit that to some great to 3537 02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:26,640 some degree i could be wrong 3538 02:20:31,990 --> 02:20:28,960 but i do think the true believers could 3539 02:20:34,790 --> 02:20:32,000 absolutely learn from uh you know a more 3540 02:20:37,429 --> 02:20:34,800 critical analysis and they all too often 3541 02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:37,439 the extreme ones right 3542 02:20:41,190 --> 02:20:39,040 and the skeptics need to come up out of 3543 02:20:43,590 --> 02:20:41,200 the cave my actual degree is in 3544 02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:43,600 psychology and it's something especially 3545 02:20:47,830 --> 02:20:45,760 in this field i look at a lot and there 3546 02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:47,840 just are a number of people if not the 3547 02:20:51,349 --> 02:20:50,399 majority of people who are looking for a 3548 02:20:53,910 --> 02:20:51,359 leader 3549 02:20:56,070 --> 02:20:53,920 they're looking for someone to believe 3550 02:20:57,830 --> 02:20:56,080 and to tell them they don't have the 3551 02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:57,840 time to look up the truth they're living 3552 02:21:00,870 --> 02:20:59,280 their lives they don't have time to 3553 02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:00,880 research so they're looking for that 3554 02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:03,439 person oh david wilcock 3555 02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:06,880 yeah david wilcock david dr greer 3556 02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,240 chris o'brien you know whoever um but 3557 02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:12,399 they are looking so chris is one step 3558 02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:16,080 removed from whoever yeah right yeah 3559 02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:18,640 but we do have to be careful i think and 3560 02:21:23,510 --> 02:21:21,520 we have to understand that when and that 3561 02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:23,520 that that's what's going on with many of 3562 02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:26,880 these people and so often you know the 3563 02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:29,600 skeptics the true skeptics the debunkers 3564 02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:31,040 who are you know like professional 3565 02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:33,520 skeptics or debunker who i agree are so 3566 02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:35,040 close minded they're ridiculous they 3567 02:21:40,630 --> 02:21:37,280 don't look at the facts 3568 02:21:42,389 --> 02:21:40,640 they uh or or those who get frustrated 3569 02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:42,399 by people not listening to their side of 3570 02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:44,720 the story it doesn't really serve you to 3571 02:21:49,670 --> 02:21:47,280 attack these groups of people but just 3572 02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:49,680 to approach them um 3573 02:21:54,870 --> 02:21:52,160 in a more positive manner seems to be 3574 02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:54,880 more helpful for them to kind of move to 3575 02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:56,160 your 3576 02:22:02,309 --> 02:22:00,560 of someone else's yeah i'm learning 3577 02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:02,319 alejandro i'm learning 3578 02:22:10,550 --> 02:22:08,710 the grumpy investigator 3579 02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,560 all right you know i'll admit i heard 3580 02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:12,479 somebody even recently said chris 3581 02:22:19,030 --> 02:22:14,560 o'brien he's just seems to be getting 3582 02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:20,630 well somebody's gotta wake up these 3583 02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:22,399 knuckleheads 3584 02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:24,640 and what is a bummer is there was no 3585 02:22:29,510 --> 02:22:27,439 discussion about the substance 3586 02:22:31,429 --> 02:22:29,520 um instead it was more about this 3587 02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:31,439 perception 3588 02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:37,910 i'm agreeing 3589 02:22:41,349 --> 02:22:39,840 yeah see there's plenty we can agree on 3590 02:22:43,190 --> 02:22:41,359 and i'm sure there are is plenty we 3591 02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:43,200 would agree on i went through the worst 3592 02:22:47,110 --> 02:22:45,120 year of my adult life last year so 3593 02:22:48,830 --> 02:22:47,120 pardon me if i get grumpy every now and 3594 02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:48,840 then 3595 02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:51,280 yeah that's all i can say 3596 02:22:54,790 --> 02:22:53,200 i told him he's always been grumpy you 3597 02:22:57,670 --> 02:22:54,800 should have seen him in colorado i get 3598 02:23:01,750 --> 02:22:59,990 i think it's ironic that in a time a 3599 02:23:04,309 --> 02:23:01,760 period where 3600 02:23:06,550 --> 02:23:04,319 hostility and aggression seems to be the 3601 02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,560 uh you know the thing on the menu you 3602 02:23:09,110 --> 02:23:08,160 know every day 3603 02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:09,120 people 3604 02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:10,960 will grumble about somebody getting 3605 02:23:14,230 --> 02:23:12,000 grumpy 3606 02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:14,240 you know 3607 02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:17,200 well i think we have somebody here 3608 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3736 02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:03,349 well 3737 02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:05,840 this has been quite an unexpected 3738 02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:08,640 session here alejandro you were raring 3739 02:29:11,510 --> 02:29:09,760 to go 3740 02:29:14,230 --> 02:29:11,520 so friday mornings it's just you know 3741 02:29:15,670 --> 02:29:14,240 i'm always a little more spunky a little 3742 02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,680 more frisky 3743 02:29:18,870 --> 02:29:17,120 it's like the whole week you have the 3744 02:29:20,870 --> 02:29:18,880 frustrations of the whole week and i 3745 02:29:22,710 --> 02:29:20,880 always come in it's like i'm wrapping up 3746 02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:22,720 this week and nothing's getting in the 3747 02:29:26,070 --> 02:29:24,000 way so 3748 02:29:27,990 --> 02:29:26,080 yeah and plus with you guys you know you 3749 02:29:30,790 --> 02:29:28,000 always guys you guys love getting me all 3750 02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:32,790 that's what we're here for that's why 3751 02:29:37,270 --> 02:29:35,120 we're here that's our job in fact day 3752 02:29:39,830 --> 02:29:37,280 and night chris and i 3753 02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:39,840 take notes what could we do to make 3754 02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:41,520 alejandro 3755 02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:44,399 go off the rails 3756 02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:46,080 you bastards 3757 02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:47,600 well it's hard not to get riled up in 3758 02:29:52,550 --> 02:29:49,520 this day and age when we're sitting on 3759 02:29:55,349 --> 02:29:52,560 the edge of anarchy and oh my gosh 3760 02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:55,359 revolution i know ain't it cool yeah i 3761 02:29:58,790 --> 02:29:57,120 mean we live in that chinese curse 3762 02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:58,800 gentlemen yeah i heard this phrase in 3763 02:30:02,630 --> 02:30:00,720 the air force they use in the military 3764 02:30:04,469 --> 02:30:02,640 all over the place this kind of stuff 3765 02:30:06,389 --> 02:30:04,479 this kind of situation this chaos and 3766 02:30:07,910 --> 02:30:06,399 all this stuff it's an opportunity to 3767 02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:07,920 excel 3768 02:30:11,830 --> 02:30:10,000 and uh just like you said the chinese 3769 02:30:13,910 --> 02:30:11,840 interesting time so 3770 02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:13,920 you know i the way i look at it is you 3771 02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:16,160 know it's awful it sucks 3772 02:30:19,349 --> 02:30:17,600 i'd rather break away and run off 3773 02:30:21,750 --> 02:30:19,359 somewhere else but if i'm going to be 3774 02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:21,760 stuck here then you know let's make 3775 02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:23,840 let's make lemonade you know yeah might 3776 02:30:29,429 --> 02:30:27,040 as well be interesting amen brother 3777 02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:29,439 god break those few eggs first 3778 02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:31,120 god break a few eggs 3779 02:30:34,389 --> 02:30:33,040 alejandro what uh what sort of projects 3780 02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:34,399 and stuff do you have coming up besides 3781 02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:36,960 your usual um your usual weekly stuff 3782 02:30:41,429 --> 02:30:38,560 well we've got a new thing coming up 3783 02:30:44,309 --> 02:30:41,439 we're gonna be doing a a news magazine 3784 02:30:46,070 --> 02:30:44,319 type of monthly uh youtube video where 3785 02:30:48,469 --> 02:30:46,080 we're gonna kind of start from the 3786 02:30:50,230 --> 02:30:48,479 beginning and build it up and i think 3787 02:30:52,550 --> 02:30:50,240 it's going to be more in depth than 3788 02:30:54,469 --> 02:30:52,560 people have seen so for instance we're 3789 02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:54,479 starting with blue book so the first 3790 02:30:58,550 --> 02:30:56,640 thing's going to be about there were 3791 02:31:00,550 --> 02:30:58,560 amazing blue book files so we're going 3792 02:31:02,230 --> 02:31:00,560 to focus on 1952 3793 02:31:04,070 --> 02:31:02,240 and that wave i think more in depth than 3794 02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:04,080 people have seen before and we're going 3795 02:31:08,790 --> 02:31:06,880 to have people like nick pope and 3796 02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:08,800 john alexander others that are kind of 3797 02:31:13,670 --> 02:31:10,880 insiders with some insight talking about 3798 02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:13,680 this but then we're going to build on to 3799 02:31:18,389 --> 02:31:16,399 such as that there are files there were 3800 02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:18,399 there was a continued interest we do 3801 02:31:22,790 --> 02:31:19,920 have government files that show there's 3802 02:31:24,950 --> 02:31:22,800 a continued interest including in you 3803 02:31:26,630 --> 02:31:24,960 know nuclear facilities and then we're 3804 02:31:28,469 --> 02:31:26,640 going to delve into 3805 02:31:31,349 --> 02:31:28,479 where those files went and a lot of 3806 02:31:34,870 --> 02:31:31,359 stuff i think that is just not out there 3807 02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:34,880 that i think will be more revealing and 3808 02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:36,640 show that there has been a continued 3809 02:31:41,349 --> 02:31:38,800 interest but it it's also challenging 3810 02:31:42,550 --> 02:31:41,359 this idea of conspiracy even the term 3811 02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:42,560 conspiracy 3812 02:31:49,990 --> 02:31:47,439 highly secretive the government's highly 3813 02:31:52,150 --> 02:31:50,000 secretive people everywhere are lying 3814 02:31:55,590 --> 02:31:52,160 the military's knee-jerk reaction is to 3815 02:31:57,349 --> 02:31:55,600 lie it's all about pr and spin and it's 3816 02:31:59,270 --> 02:31:57,359 just kind of the way it is marketing is 3817 02:32:01,190 --> 02:31:59,280 all lying it's like it's okay to lie now 3818 02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:01,200 that's what we do that's first 3819 02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:03,280 so what is a conspiracy there if if 3820 02:32:07,670 --> 02:32:05,439 that's the case and a conspiracy is a 3821 02:32:10,630 --> 02:32:07,680 government lie then we're surrounded by 3822 02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:10,640 conspiracies everything's a conspiracy 3823 02:32:15,510 --> 02:32:13,200 so it we're living in a new world i 3824 02:32:17,110 --> 02:32:15,520 think past the edge of looking oh my 3825 02:32:18,870 --> 02:32:17,120 gosh the government would like of course 3826 02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:18,880 they would so what have they been lying 3827 02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:21,280 about and what's really been going on 3828 02:32:24,550 --> 02:32:22,960 behind the scenes it's almost like we're 3829 02:32:26,389 --> 02:32:24,560 a little more sophisticated 3830 02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:26,399 that we know there's a level of what 3831 02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:28,399 we're told and then there's a level of 3832 02:32:32,790 --> 02:32:30,640 what's really happening but we can also 3833 02:32:35,429 --> 02:32:32,800 examine why we're told what we're told 3834 02:32:37,429 --> 02:32:35,439 and maybe sometimes it makes sense but 3835 02:32:39,429 --> 02:32:37,439 just to show there is a genuine mystery 3836 02:32:41,590 --> 02:32:39,439 that's gone on with some extraordinary 3837 02:32:43,429 --> 02:32:41,600 incidents that have taken place and it 3838 02:32:45,910 --> 02:32:43,439 does i think move people because i think 3839 02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:45,920 people are move towards they do 3840 02:32:49,750 --> 02:32:47,760 understand okay here's what we're told 3841 02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:49,760 but what is the truth and sometimes 3842 02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:51,840 that's really hard to find especially 3843 02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:53,840 when it comes to black projects or some 3844 02:32:57,590 --> 02:32:56,080 of these murkier areas that you know you 3845 02:32:59,670 --> 02:32:57,600 all are talking about or that walter 3846 02:33:02,070 --> 02:32:59,680 kind of specializes in all right that 3847 02:33:03,349 --> 02:33:02,080 sounds like exciting stuff at open minds 3848 02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:03,359 yeah and then we've got the conference 3849 02:33:07,270 --> 02:33:05,200 coming up of course and then and we're 3850 02:33:09,110 --> 02:33:07,280 going to have more exciting guests there 3851 02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:09,120 so people will have to keep an eye on 3852 02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:11,680 that cool well okay we're going to send 3853 02:33:15,750 --> 02:33:14,319 you the bill for that uh 3854 02:33:18,469 --> 02:33:15,760 you know oh for the conference you guys 3855 02:33:19,750 --> 02:33:18,479 are always special guests anyways well 3856 02:33:21,910 --> 02:33:19,760 we're thinking here of course of 3857 02:33:23,510 --> 02:33:21,920 charging you for the ads so of course 3858 02:33:26,150 --> 02:33:23,520 we'll make lots and lots of money from 3859 02:33:28,469 --> 02:33:26,160 you hey i asked the question gene 3860 02:33:30,710 --> 02:33:28,479 well and and not only that we don't make 3861 02:33:38,389 --> 02:33:30,720 money so we're 3862 02:33:42,230 --> 02:33:39,830 there is no money i think what's 3863 02:33:44,790 --> 02:33:42,240 happened is here is when they decided to 3864 02:33:47,349 --> 02:33:44,800 dole out the money e.t and especially 3865 02:33:50,469 --> 02:33:47,359 the star beings from zeta reticuli they 3866 02:33:53,030 --> 02:33:50,479 said okay uh gene cross them off 3867 02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:53,040 chris yeah cross them off 3868 02:33:57,670 --> 02:33:55,840 walter cross them off alejandra we've 3869 02:34:00,230 --> 02:33:57,680 got the real estate gig going so he's 3870 02:34:01,990 --> 02:34:00,240 okay yeah and unfortunately they said 3871 02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:02,000 grier oh we're going to give him some 3872 02:34:07,110 --> 02:34:03,680 money we're going to give david wilcox 3873 02:34:08,630 --> 02:34:07,120 some money oh god 3874 02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:08,640 so the eps have their favor they're 3875 02:34:12,920 --> 02:34:11,520 playing their favorites yeah don't get 3876 02:34:14,550 --> 02:34:12,930 me started 3877 02:34:17,590 --> 02:34:14,560 [Laughter] 3878 02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:17,600 come on chris i promise not to be grumpy 3879 02:34:21,590 --> 02:34:19,600 i don't want to break that promise well 3880 02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:21,600 you've got a reputation to uphold now 3881 02:34:24,469 --> 02:34:23,280 yeah but we've got one listener who 3882 02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:24,479 bailed from 3883 02:34:28,830 --> 02:34:26,640 the paracast plus because chris is 3884 02:34:30,070 --> 02:34:28,840 grumpy and we have too much 3885 02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:30,080 politics oh 3886 02:34:35,190 --> 02:34:32,880 geez well what can you do we're all 3887 02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:35,200 human if i ever say anything political 3888 02:34:39,670 --> 02:34:37,359 on one of my shows boy do people get 3889 02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:39,680 upset and it's like you know what i'm a 3890 02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:42,960 human being once in a while my opinions 3891 02:34:47,110 --> 02:34:44,160 and some of those things are going to 3892 02:34:48,790 --> 02:34:47,120 slip out i try not to but because we can 3893 02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:48,800 understand these people you know they're 3894 02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:51,280 getting it in every other place they go 3895 02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:53,520 and watch and listen i think when they 3896 02:34:58,150 --> 02:34:55,600 come to like if they come to like your 3897 02:35:00,070 --> 02:34:58,160 podcast or they come to the paracast or 3898 02:35:01,590 --> 02:35:00,080 anything they're kind of looking for a 3899 02:35:04,309 --> 02:35:01,600 break from that you know they want to 3900 02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:04,319 hear other things that we do and and i 3901 02:35:08,710 --> 02:35:06,399 you know i respect that i totally get 3902 02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:08,720 that i look at this stuff as an escape 3903 02:35:12,870 --> 02:35:10,960 from all that stuff too but you're right 3904 02:35:14,870 --> 02:35:12,880 you know once in a while if something 3905 02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:14,880 gets through people shouldn't be so 3906 02:35:18,389 --> 02:35:16,479 hyper sensitive 3907 02:35:20,950 --> 02:35:18,399 yeah well i think part of it is it's a 3908 02:35:21,910 --> 02:35:20,960 bubble and if your political point of 3909 02:35:23,670 --> 02:35:21,920 view is 3910 02:35:25,750 --> 02:35:23,680 not in their bubble 3911 02:35:27,270 --> 02:35:25,760 it becomes more offensive and that's it 3912 02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:27,280 that's why we're so polarized people 3913 02:35:30,710 --> 02:35:28,720 live in this bubble 3914 02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:30,720 they reinforce each other with their 3915 02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:33,040 echo chamber and therefore they can 3916 02:35:36,630 --> 02:35:35,040 never get a well-rounded view of 3917 02:35:38,550 --> 02:35:36,640 everything so as soon as they're 3918 02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:38,560 confronted with something that's a 3919 02:35:42,790 --> 02:35:41,520 little bit outside their comfort zone oh 3920 02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:42,800 my god 3921 02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:45,200 it's like i said earlier the democrat 3922 02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:47,439 guy can't buy donuts from the republican 3923 02:35:51,349 --> 02:35:49,520 donut maker and vice versa 3924 02:35:52,870 --> 02:35:51,359 it's getting to be ridiculous where 3925 02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:52,880 we're talking about just buying donuts 3926 02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:55,200 for crying out loud but we we bring this 3927 02:35:59,190 --> 02:35:57,600 political filter in on it and it just 3928 02:36:01,429 --> 02:35:59,200 screws everything up i'd like to see 3929 02:36:03,910 --> 02:36:01,439 people stop doing that you know but 3930 02:36:05,670 --> 02:36:03,920 ordinary people talk about other people 3931 02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:05,680 you know slightly evolved people talk 3932 02:36:11,750 --> 02:36:08,319 about events and real thinkers talk 3933 02:36:14,230 --> 02:36:11,760 about ideas so we attempt to uh kind of 3934 02:36:16,150 --> 02:36:14,240 be all things for all people 3935 02:36:17,910 --> 02:36:16,160 yeah yeah which of course therefore we 3936 02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:17,920 appeal to nobody that's our biggest 3937 02:36:24,550 --> 02:36:20,479 problem here at the powercast we appeal 3938 02:36:27,110 --> 02:36:24,560 to nobody and no one and everybody hates 3939 02:36:28,309 --> 02:36:27,120 us so that's it i think we're going to 3940 02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:28,319 talk to those 3941 02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:30,000 star beings and see if they have any 3942 02:36:34,630 --> 02:36:31,600 advice star beings do you have any 3943 02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:34,640 advice anything don't forget anyway 3944 02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:37,600 alejandro rojas as we wind down can you 3945 02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:39,520 tell our listeners a little bit more 3946 02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:41,040 about where they can find the things 3947 02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:42,160 that you do 3948 02:36:45,910 --> 02:36:43,920 yep you can find everything at 3949 02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:45,920 openminds.tv 3950 02:36:51,830 --> 02:36:48,880 uh we're on facebook we're on twitter i 3951 02:36:54,469 --> 02:36:51,840 think we've we're super active uh on 3952 02:36:57,030 --> 02:36:54,479 both of those and youtube but 3953 02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:57,040 you can find it all at openminds.tv 3954 02:37:02,950 --> 02:36:59,520 including information about the upcoming 3955 02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:02,960 ufo congress that we have every year and 3956 02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:04,880 wandering the hallways every year you'll 3957 02:37:09,590 --> 02:37:07,359 find a gene and chris 3958 02:37:12,070 --> 02:37:09,600 which is always fun maybe we'll get 3959 02:37:13,830 --> 02:37:12,080 walter to fly down here instead of buy 3960 02:37:15,349 --> 02:37:13,840 that new mac walter where can we find 3961 02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:15,359 more of your stuff 3962 02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:17,439 amazon.com you can find my books on 3963 02:37:21,590 --> 02:37:19,600 kindle just you know do a search on my 3964 02:37:23,349 --> 02:37:21,600 name and all my books come up 3965 02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:23,359 for those who prefer printed they can go 3966 02:37:31,190 --> 02:37:27,280 to lulu lulu.com and look up my books 3967 02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:33,270 and i just announced a new book coming 3968 02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:36,080 out um shooting for late september 3969 02:37:41,910 --> 02:37:38,160 titled shimmering light 3970 02:37:43,270 --> 02:37:41,920 lost in an mk ultra house of anu 3971 02:37:45,429 --> 02:37:43,280 oh boy 3972 02:37:47,990 --> 02:37:45,439 that's walter bosley 3973 02:37:52,309 --> 02:37:48,000 you can find us on 3974 02:37:55,230 --> 02:37:52,319 for the power cast on facebook two power 3975 02:37:56,309 --> 02:37:55,240 cast fan clubs and if you go to plus dot 3976 02:37:59,429 --> 02:37:56,319 thepowercast.com 3977 02:38:02,950 --> 02:38:01,270 what the heck are you find will you find 3978 02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:02,960 the powercast plus we tell you how to 3979 02:38:07,590 --> 02:38:05,520 sign up we're offering that book with 3980 02:38:09,270 --> 02:38:07,600 ray stanford and chris o'brien second 3981 02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:09,280 chapter going up 3982 02:38:13,510 --> 02:38:11,760 any day now we've got the commercial 3983 02:38:16,389 --> 02:38:13,520 free version of this show we've got the 3984 02:38:18,309 --> 02:38:16,399 after the power cast podcast and more 3985 02:38:21,270 --> 02:38:18,319 goodies coming we'll tell you what they 3986 02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:21,280 are for a modest subscription rate plus 3987 02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:23,680 dot the powercast.com 3988 02:38:28,550 --> 02:38:26,640 walter bosley alejandro rojas 3989 02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:28,560 thank you both for joining us 3990 02:38:31,750 --> 02:38:30,160 on the powercast 3991 02:38:33,349 --> 02:38:31,760 thank you gene and chris i appreciate 3992 02:38:35,190 --> 02:38:33,359 being here and it's good to talk to you 3993 02:38:37,349 --> 02:38:35,200 and meet you alejandro i look forward to 3994 02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:37,359 looking at at your site and more of your 3995 02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:38,479 work 3996 02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:41,040 yeah ditto thank you uh i apologize i 3997 02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:44,080 was a little bit blindsided so i i would 3998 02:38:47,429 --> 02:38:46,240 just came on in the last minute type of 3999 02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:47,439 thing because i love talking to these 4000 02:38:51,349 --> 02:38:49,200 guys so i wasn't familiar with the 4001 02:38:53,270 --> 02:38:51,359 topics and stuff so hopefully i didn't 4002 02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:53,280 offend anybody but uh 4003 02:38:56,630 --> 02:38:54,960 i look forward to looking into your step 4004 02:39:02,870 --> 02:38:56,640 two it was really nice to meet you 4005 02:39:02,880 --> 02:39:06,150 [Music] 4006 02:39:11,830 --> 02:39:08,950 the powercast featuring jean steinberg 4007 02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:11,840 and christopher o'brien is a copyrighted 4008 02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:14,880 presentation of making the impossible 4009 02:39:20,710 --> 02:39:16,560 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